DRAMA (women)

[Walt Longmire]

I'm on the board for a local non profit. Suddenly our Director and 4 of the 8 employees are supposedly resigning. All are women. It's a bunch of silly drama. I think we need to hire a few men to fill some of the open positions if they go through with it. I'm attending an emergency meeting today to address it. DRAMA. Women. Just stop it. PMS maybe. Is that racist?

[tous]

Do any of them  jiggle?

[minervadoe]

What's their beef?  Can I still say that without offending some splinter group or other?

[Batesmotel]

I’m the Emergency Preparedness Specialist for my congregation. I coordinate with with several other congregations in the area. We form a committee. There have been several women on this committee over the years. 
 

Every time a woman is appointed to the committee everything slows down. Nothing is accomplished without a ****-ton of unnecessary drama. Drama just for the sake of drama. 
 

WHY????

[Batesmotel]

On a similar note…

Do you know one major reason men are more successful than women?

Men help each other. Men even help women in their jobs. Women tear each other down. 
 

My wife is job hunting right now. This is disgustingly apparent.  Men are helping her as a colleague. Women will stab her in the back. 

[janice6]

2 hours ago, Walt Longmire said:

I'm on the board for a local non profit. Suddenly our Director and 4 of the 8 employees are supposedly resigning. All are women. It's a bunch of silly drama. I think we need to hire a few men to fill some of the open positions if they go through with it. I'm attending an emergency meeting today to address it. DRAMA. Women. Just stop it. PMS maybe. Is that racist?

My aerospace company found they couldn't have women managing a few hundred women assemblers doing core memory work.  The favoritism and in-fighting was killing production.

So, we hired men to manage large numbers of women.  The company threatened the male managers with all kinds of miserable results if they "fraternized" with the women.  Everything returned to normal.

Emotions have no place in the workplace.  It just causes everything to go to crap.

 

[janice6]

2 hours ago, tous said:

Do any of them  jiggle?

Some more than others!

[Gunboat1]

2 hours ago, Batesmotel said:

I’m the Emergency Preparedness Specialist for my congregation. I coordinate with with several other congregations in the area. We form a committee. There have been several women on this committee over the years. 
 

Every time a woman is appointed to the committee everything slows down. Nothing is accomplished without a ****-ton of unnecessary drama. Drama just for the sake of drama. 
 

WHY????

The definition of a misogynist?  "A man who hates women as much as they hate each other."

Women should not be senior managers, combat troops, Boy Scout leaders, or clergy.  There is a reason why all of the Twelve Apostles were male, and every successful military in history has been led by male generals.  And don't spout off about Joan of Arc, Boudicca or The IDF to me.  Successful female executive leadership is almost entirely a myth.

[Walt Longmire]

1 hour ago, Gunboat1 said:

The definition of a misogynist?  "A man who hates women as much as they hate each other."

Women should not be senior managers, combat troops, Boy Scout leaders, or clergy.  There is a reason why all of the Twelve Apostles were male, and every successful military in history has been led by male generals.  And don't spout off about Joan of Arc, Boudicca or The IDF to me.  Successful female executive leadership is almost entirely a myth.

Terrence Popp can tell you have badly women officers have intercoursed up the military.

[Mrs.Cicero]

I'm just going to say it out loud.  I think a majority of women don't think nearly as much as they emote.  Their decisions are driven by their emotions and they can't or won't shut them off long enough to see the long-term effects of their actions.  It irritates the living daylights out of me (that's MY emotion talking).   it's why I generally prefer to spend my time with  men rather than women.  They are  more relaxing to be around.  I put up with the asinine emotional garbage in my little old lady quilting bee because there are no  male quilters around to sew with.  There is so much knee-jerk stupid decision-making driven by emotional ****-headedness (is that even a word?) that I periodically have to take a couple months off.  

Yes, a lot of it is hormonal.  Yes, my patience (thin at the best of times) is non-existent for 3 days every month, and yes, everyone in the family recognizes the look on my face when I am in the monthly 6-12 hours of irrational I HATE EVERYTHING state of mind... but I know what's happening when I feel like that, and I know I need to shut up, not make ANY major decisions, and just go to the basement and quilt, or go outside to the garden and rip up weeds, or go over the hill and shoot things... alone.  I know it's better for me and everyone else if I just avoid everyone that day.  And I also know that the next day, I'll be fine.  I have to think that too many other women are simply not paying attention to how much the hormones floating around in their brains affect their emotions and ability to think.  I have to admit, I didn't get it until I had a significantly bad reaction to my asthma med - try waking up every morning homicidally angry for no reason at all, at no one in particular, just THAT ANGRY... and suddenly it was completely gone when I stopped taking the Singulair. (yeah, "extreme irritability" finally made it onto the list of side effects for that med, would have been nice knowing it 5 years sooner).  It made me pay a whole lot more attention to what was affecting my emotional state and therefore my thinking.

Also, as an aside, women spend a whole lot more time thinking about their relationships than men do, I think.  Men , as a generalization, seem to prefer just going out and doing stuff together.  it's the DOING that's their fun.  Women spend a whole lot more time thinking (and talking, and talking behind peoples' backs) about how all the other people in their lives are feeling... feeling about themselves, feeling about their relationship, feeling about the woman thinking about this.  I find it less stressful to just hate everyone equally until they give me a reason not to.  Ok, that's a joke.  Really.  My husband is laughing now because he says I'm really a sociopath like that serial killer Dexter, and if I thought I could get away with being Dexter, I would.  Well, so?  Other people's emotional slobbering is icky.  I don't even like my own emotional slobbering.  

All my favorite bosses, and all my favorite teachers, and all my favorite preachers, have been men.  I'm not sure what that says.  it just is.

[Walt Longmire]

Our emergency Executive Session meeting went well. Even though I am not the chair, I ended up chairing the meeting and we reached a good conclusion. I was appointed to share our results with the affected parties. All is well once again. BUT, we have board elections coming up next month. I'm up for re-election. Then we will have votes among ourselves to elect a chair and vise chair. I have a hunch..........We shall see.

[janice6]

1 hour ago, Mrs.Cicero said:

I'm just going to say it out loud.  I think a majority of women don't think nearly as much as they emote.  Their decisions are driven by their emotions and they can't or won't shut them off long enough to see the long-term effects of their actions.  It irritates the living daylights out of me (that's MY emotion talking).   it's why I generally prefer to spend my time with  men rather than women.  They are  more relaxing to be around.  I put up with the asinine emotional garbage in my little old lady quilting bee because there are no  male quilters around to sew with.  There is so much knee-jerk stupid decision-making driven by emotional ****-headedness (is that even a word?) that I periodically have to take a couple months off.  

Yes, a lot of it is hormonal.  Yes, my patience (thin at the best of times) is non-existent for 3 days every month, and yes, everyone in the family recognizes the look on my face when I am in the monthly 6-12 hours of irrational I HATE EVERYTHING state of mind... but I know what's happening when I feel like that, and I know I need to shut up, not make ANY major decisions, and just go to the basement and quilt, or go outside to the garden and rip up weeds, or go over the hill and shoot things... alone.  I know it's better for me and everyone else if I just avoid everyone that day.  And I also know that the next day, I'll be fine.  I have to think that too many other women are simply not paying attention to how much the hormones floating around in their brains affect their emotions and ability to think.  I have to admit, I didn't get it until I had a significantly bad reaction to my asthma med - try waking up every morning homicidally angry for no reason at all, at no one in particular, just THAT ANGRY... and suddenly it was completely gone when I stopped taking the Singulair. (yeah, "extreme irritability" finally made it onto the list of side effects for that med, would have been nice knowing it 5 years sooner).  It made me pay a whole lot more attention to what was affecting my emotional state and therefore my thinking.

Also, as an aside, women spend a whole lot more time thinking about their relationships than men do, I think.  Men , as a generalization, seem to prefer just going out and doing stuff together.  it's the DOING that's their fun.  Women spend a whole lot more time thinking (and talking, and talking behind peoples' backs) about how all the other people in their lives are feeling... feeling about themselves, feeling about their relationship, feeling about the woman thinking about this.  I find it less stressful to just hate everyone equally until they give me a reason not to.  Ok, that's a joke.  Really.  My husband is laughing now because he says I'm really a sociopath like that serial killer Dexter, and if I thought I could get away with being Dexter, I would.  Well, so?  Other people's emotional slobbering is icky.  I don't even like my own emotional slobbering.  

All my favorite bosses, and all my favorite teachers, and all my favorite preachers, have been men.  I'm not sure what that says.  it just is.

I entirely agree.  I hate having to say that, but my experience with production floors of roughly 100 women to a project, has shown me what you say is true.

Don't get me wrong, I do like women.  In fact, tonight at Denny's my favorite waitress told my wife that I would make a good lesbian - To which I whole heartedly agreed.

[Mrs.Cicero]

This is my reaction to the drama... 

 

[janice6]

26 minutes ago, janice6 said:

I entirely agree.  I hate having to say that, but my experience with production floors of roughly 100 women to a project, has shown me what you say is true.

Don't get me wrong, I do like women.  In fact, tonight at Denny's my favorite waitress told my wife that I would make a good lesbian - To which I whole heartedly agreed.

I forgot to add:  Tonight, a customer listening to us at Denny's stopped to tap me on the shoulder as he was leaving.  He said, "You guys are having way too much fun!".  I replied, "I have no recourse, I am married!"

[holyjohnson]

who the hells gonna make the Sammiches now??

[Gunboat1]

2 hours ago, Walt Longmire said:

Terrence Popp can tell you have badly women officers have intercoursed up the military.

Don't have to tell me, I witnessed it and have been chronicling it for years.  Our nation is far less secure as a result.  We have very hard times coming.

[Gunboat1]

2 hours ago, Mrs.Cicero said:

I'm just going to say it out loud.  I think a majority of women don't think nearly as much as they emote.  Their decisions are driven by their emotions and they can't or won't shut them off long enough to see the long-term effects of their actions.  It irritates the living daylights out of me (that's MY emotion talking).   it's why I generally prefer to spend my time with  men rather than women.  They are  more relaxing to be around.  I put up with the asinine emotional garbage in my little old lady quilting bee because there are no  male quilters around to sew with.  There is so much knee-jerk stupid decision-making driven by emotional ****-headedness (is that even a word?) that I periodically have to take a couple months off.  

Yes, a lot of it is hormonal.  Yes, my patience (thin at the best of times) is non-existent for 3 days every month, and yes, everyone in the family recognizes the look on my face when I am in the monthly 6-12 hours of irrational I HATE EVERYTHING state of mind... but I know what's happening when I feel like that, and I know I need to shut up, not make ANY major decisions, and just go to the basement and quilt, or go outside to the garden and rip up weeds, or go over the hill and shoot things... alone.  I know it's better for me and everyone else if I just avoid everyone that day.  And I also know that the next day, I'll be fine.  I have to think that too many other women are simply not paying attention to how much the hormones floating around in their brains affect their emotions and ability to think.  I have to admit, I didn't get it until I had a significantly bad reaction to my asthma med - try waking up every morning homicidally angry for no reason at all, at no one in particular, just THAT ANGRY... and suddenly it was completely gone when I stopped taking the Singulair. (yeah, "extreme irritability" finally made it onto the list of side effects for that med, would have been nice knowing it 5 years sooner).  It made me pay a whole lot more attention to what was affecting my emotional state and therefore my thinking.

Also, as an aside, women spend a whole lot more time thinking about their relationships than men do, I think.  Men , as a generalization, seem to prefer just going out and doing stuff together.  it's the DOING that's their fun.  Women spend a whole lot more time thinking (and talking, and talking behind peoples' backs) about how all the other people in their lives are feeling... feeling about themselves, feeling about their relationship, feeling about the woman thinking about this.  I find it less stressful to just hate everyone equally until they give me a reason not to.  Ok, that's a joke.  Really.  My husband is laughing now because he says I'm really a sociopath like that serial killer Dexter, and if I thought I could get away with being Dexter, I would.  Well, so?  Other people's emotional slobbering is icky.  I don't even like my own emotional slobbering.  

All my favorite bosses, and all my favorite teachers, and all my favorite preachers, have been men.  I'm not sure what that says.  it just is.

I am again struck by how atypical and impressive you are, ma'am.   Most thoughtful,  candid and intellectually capable.  You are quite rare.