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To preface:

This is a question about constitutional procedure, NOT individual passions or beliefs.

I genuinely want to know the answer to this question, and I genuinely do NOT want to create problems for Eric or any other moderators.  To those folks, I’ll request ahead  of time, if this thread even has an inkling of going off the rails, please just delete it.  Don’t even bother moving it to the Political Forum.

So, the question:

If, just for the sake of information, some of these recounts of the last presidential election started to stack up, and the actual electoral votes were identified as actually going to the other side, and if they amounted to enough to actually change the outcome, what would be the procedure to address the issue?

Again, this is only a procedural question, not one of political preference.(Please!)

I now defer to those with knowledge of such subjects.

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Like if they could prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that no one could deny, that 44 was in fact born in Kenya. What would happen? It’s a bit late now. But in your question, I would think President Trump would resume his administration.

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I'm not sure there is an answer other than, the votes have been certified in all the states and that is that.

Beyond that, it is uncharted territory. 

Whoever has the strongest political will determine the next steps.  

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A lot of people on both sises of the issue would be pissed.

We have a president sworn in on the day required. That's all folks. There is no constitutional way to impeach Biden unless he was dumb enough to leave damning evidence around. Your basic "Constitutional Crisis."

Some low level heads would roll, but nobody of any stature would be touched.

Measures would be taken to investigate what happened and, with any luck, the system would be changed for the better. In healthcare terms "Search for the guilty and punish the innocent."

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25 minutes ago, Paul53 said:

There is no constitutional way to impeach Biden unless he was dumb enough to leave damning evidence around.

(that was jest, im sure)

Should the house flip, and other upsets, in '22,  I see no problem with impeaching Biden,  for exactly what they impeached Trump for.

And they have him recorded,  admitting to it.

 

But no one wants Camela.   Neither side. 

Unless they get Camela first.

Then we get Pelosi.

Ain't nobody got time for that.

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1 hour ago, Huaco Kid said:

(that was jest, im sure)

Should the house flip, and other upsets, in '22,  I see no problem with impeaching Biden,  for exactly what they impeached Trump for.

And they have him recorded,  admitting to it.

 

But no one wants Camela.   Neither side. 

Unless they get Camela first.

Then we get Pelosi.

Ain't nobody got time for that.

If the House of Representatives has flipped, i.e., Republicans hold the majority of the seats, no?

Nancy Pelosi will likely not be the Speaker of the House, thus, not in the line of succession.

Unless Liz Cheney convinces all of the so-called conservatives to vote for her.

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Are you the same jame from glocktalk? Anyone who believes ol puddin brain got more votes than TRUMP is delusional. Biden is a ******* idiot and everyone knows it. The guy is a demented pedophile and plain ol ******* idiot. Anyone wo supports that pedo is pure trash too me and i would not piss on you if you were on fire. biden supporters are pure trash as well as all democRATS. The election was stolen and people with a brain know it.

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8 hours ago, jame said:

what would be the procedure to address the issue?

In order of appearance:

1) It would cease to be called a conspiracy theory by the liberal mass media (LMM) and its shills, the politicians;

2) The LMM will publish apologies, for having it called a conspiracy theory, constantly in a 24/7 news cycle for months on end;

3) In a press conference, President Biden will accept the result and apologize while stating "I can't be part of it. I hereby resign my seat in the Senate."...

...and so forth...

 

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5 hours ago, Hook said:

Are you the same jame from glocktalk? Anyone who believes ol puddin brain got more votes than TRUMP is delusional. Biden is a ******* idiot and everyone knows it. The guy is a demented pedophile and plain ol ******* idiot. Anyone wo supports that pedo is pure trash too me and i would not piss on you if you were on fire. biden supporters are pure trash as well as all democRATS. The election was stolen and people with a brain know it.

Thanks for your objective and well reasoned response.

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1 hour ago, tadbart said:

so. when does the shootin' start? we ain't bought all these bullets for a deer infestation.

Never worry.

John Cena is coming to the rescue riding on top of a purple cow....  https://twitter.com/JoeXu/status/1396910262494457856?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1397157174745485314|twgr^|twcon^s3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailywire.com%2Fnews%2Fjohn-cena-blasted-after-apologizing-to-china-china-just-neutered-him-for-the-entire-world-to-see

Translation...

"Hi China, I’m John Cena. I’m in the middle of Fast and Furious 9 promotions. I’m doing a lot of interviews. I made a mistake in one of my interviews. Everyone was asking me if I could use Chinese – [movie] staff gave me a lot of information, so there was a lot of interviews and information.

I made one mistake. I have to say something very, very, very important now. I love and respect China and Chinese people. I’m very, very sorry about my mistake. I apologize, I apologize, I’m very sorry. You must understand that I really love, really respect China and the Chinese people. My apologies. See you."

 

Actor and WWE star John Cena was slammed online starting late Monday evening and continuing well into Tuesday morning after apologizing to communist China for calling Taiwan a “country.”

 

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Little-known secret.

John Cena was supposed to play the "Wet Teddy Bears!"  part in the Liberty Mutual ad. 

The world lost something that day. Like when DeNiro couldn't play the Hoffman part in the movie Tootsie.

 

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BREAKING NEWS!

John Cena has expressed that he is willing to take over the Geico gecko part when the gecko retires or dies of natural causes like an Uyghur in northwest China.

"But the gecko is a cartoon!",  a journalist asked him.

"My point exactly", Cena replied.

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Short answer is that the answer gets to be made up because there isn't an answer spelled out in the constitution.

Courts have in the past invalidated elections, ordered recounts, ordered new elections, sanctioned elections officials, thrown out ballots, and the list goes on. So speaking to the courts there is precedent, but not for a presidential election. I think the highest office addressed so far has been a senate seat. 

This means it is very much a political question and the powers that be will do whatever they want that they think they can get away with. This is consistent with how they have already addressed the issue.

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14 hours ago, NPTim said:

Like if they could prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that no one could deny, that 44 was in fact born in Kenya. What would happen? It’s a bit late now. But in your question, I would think President Trump would resume his administration.

Respectfully, it wouldn't even matter if Obama was born in Kenya. As long as one of his biological parents is a US citizen at the time of his birth, then he TOO is a natural born US citizen. He could have been born on the friggin' moon, it wouldn't matter.

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13 hours ago, Huaco Kid said:

(that was jest, im sure)

Should the house flip, and other upsets, in '22,  I see no problem with impeaching Biden,  for exactly what they impeached Trump for.

And they have him recorded,  admitting to it.

 

But no one wants Camela.   Neither side. 

Unless they get Camela first.

Then we get Pelosi.

Ain't nobody got time for that.

If the house flips Pelosi is no longer speaker.

Have read hypotheticals that Trump runs for the House in 2022, the House flips, Trump becomes speaker, and Biden/Harris are simultaneously impeached and convicted and removed thus making Trump President once more. Should that happen Trump could probably run for a four year term in 2024.

Too many links in that chain... including electing a Senate which would vote to convict both. An interesting fantasy none the less. 

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3 hours ago, railfancwb said:

If the house flips Pelosi is no longer speaker.

Have read hypotheticals that Trump runs for the House in 2022, the House flips, Trump becomes speaker, and Biden/Harris are simultaneously impeached and convicted and removed thus making Trump President once more. Should that happen Trump could probably run for a four year term in 2024.

Too many links in that chain... including electing a Senate which would vote to convict both. An interesting fantasy none the less. 

Hoping the house flips in 22 is about the only hope.

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31 minutes ago, pipedreams said:

Hoping the house flips in 22 is about the only hope.

No offense, amigo, but what makes you think that Democrats, having cheated and won the presidency and the majority in the Senate, will not lie, cheat and steal to keep their control of the House of Representatives?

2020 was a test run on how to ensure hippie socialist election victory and they will have had two years to improve the process.

Do you think that Nancy Pelosi will give up power when her party can just lie, cheat and steal again?

Expect a Blue Wave in 2024, not just at the national level but many Republican governors in red states will suddenly lose to Democrats.

:599c64bfb50b0_wavey1:

 

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