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I wonder how someone signs up for these online classes?

I could identify as a third grader again and attend my lessons from the comfort of my man cave. I'll take down the girly pictures, but the dead animals stay.

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35 minutes ago, railfancwb said:

Yeah, and, HELL NO.

You come into my house with your computer.   I will know what you see and do.

You tech my child...you have me paying a attention.  Period.

You don't have one student with my child.  You have one child and two parents.

End. Of. Story.

Don't like it.  I pull my kid.

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52 minutes ago, Historian said:

Yeah, and, HELL NO.

You come into my house with your computer.   I will know what you see and do.

You tech my child...you have me paying a attention.  Period.

You don't have one student with my child.  You have one child and two parents.

End. Of. Story.

Don't like it.  I pull my kid.

I wish more parents thought like you.

 

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TLDNW what was the crime these cops were investigating??

The police state is getting totally out of hand.  

It sure seems to me the mask directives has shown the tin pot dictators how complaint most people are and made them want to flex their inner stalin.

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4 hours ago, railfancwb said:

BS!

Parents have a right as the child's legal guardian, to monitor the environment the child is placed in at school.  Parents have a right to know what the child is being taught in a taxpayer funded school. 

To deny parents this right, is to prove the purpose is indoctrination of the child and not educating the child!

This is just the paranoia of teachers, afraid that the parents will find out about the indoctrination their children are going through, and the political pressure put on those children to comply to liberals teachers beliefs.

Teachers and schools believe that they have more rights to mold your child's attitudes and beliefs than the parents do.  They have even claimed the right to control what the children are taught and do while in their own home!

Education and educators have subrogated the rights of parents and legal guardians over how their children should be raised.  This is totally unacceptable, but is now the norm.  Pee on 'em!

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11 minutes ago, janice6 said:

 Parents have a right to know what the child is being taught in a taxpayer funded school. 

End of discussion.

Nothing in a child's education needs to be held from the parents.  Nothing.

In fact, you want parents to be part of the educational process

Pull the money.  Defund these idiots.

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Parents need to stop treating elementary schools as day care and get involved in what is taught and how it is taught. Teachers need to realize that their only job is as an educator, not as a extra-governmental social service / child welfare agency. 

I loathed dealing with elementary schools when I was a cop. Drugs on campus? I can take care of that. Kid brought a knife or other weapon to campus? I can take care of that. Little Johnny doesn't want to go to school? Not a police issue - the school has a specialist for that. Little Madison get yelled at by her father? No law was broken in my State, parents can yell at their children, and I don't care what you think the law should be - it is not my job to invent laws that impose on the rights of others. Two kids got into a fist fight on the playground? If there is no serious injury [meaning surgery is required or bones were broken], deal with it yourselves - the Courts don't recognize criminal intent in 8 year olds, the County prosecutor won't file on it, and I am not going to waste a busy detective's time on a non-crime. 

Go to any elementary school as a cop and many educators will treat you as if you are more ignorant than the children are. They generally assume that you only hold a HS education and even if you went to college, it was only for criminal justice and not a "real major" [aka - elementary education]. One "educator" started down this road with me, inferring that I was not educated.  At that time, she was a grad student in an online M.Ed. at a questionable for-profit university, while I held a M.Ed. [adult education] from a State university and a M.S. in a physical science from another State university. I made a point of returning back to the school with copies of my diplomas to call out her prejudice.  

Teachers unions should have the interests in hiring/firing/retention, compensation issues, insurance & benefits, classroom resources, and issues to directly relevant to their school and district. Any union meddling in State legislation not directly related to education within their immediate purview and meddling in any Federal issues has ceased to exist for their original purpose and is now lobbying beyond their purpose. They should be broken up. This also should apply to firefighters, ironworkers, service workers, postal workers, teachers, and yes, the police. 


 

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10 minutes ago, blueiron said:

Parents need to stop treating elementary schools as day care and get involved in what is taught and how it is taught. Teachers need to realize that their only job is as an educator, not as a extra-governmental social service / child welfare agency. 

I loathed dealing with elementary schools when I was a cop. Drugs on campus? I can take care of that. Kid brought a knife or other weapon to campus? I can take care of that. Little Johnny doesn't want to go to school? Not a police issue - the school has a specialist for that. Little Madison get yelled at by her father? No law was broken in my State, parents can yell at their children, and I don't care what you think the law should be - it is not my job to invent laws that impose on the rights of others. Two kids got into a fist fight on the playground? If there is no serious injury [meaning surgery is required or bones were broken], deal with it yourselves - the Courts don't recognize criminal intent in 8 year olds, the County prosecutor won't file on it, and I am not going to waste a busy detective's time on a non-crime. 

Go to any elementary school as a cop and many educators will treat you as if you are more ignorant than the children are. They generally assume that you only hold a HS education and even if you went to college, it was only for criminal justice and not a "real major" [aka - elementary education]. One "educator" started down this road with me, inferring that I was not educated.  At that time, she was a grad student in an online M.Ed. at a questionable for-profit university, while I held a M.Ed. [adult education] from a State university and a M.S. in a physical science from another State university. I made a point of returning back to the school with copies of my diplomas to call out her prejudice.  

Teachers unions should have the interests in hiring/firing/retention, compensation issues, insurance & benefits, classroom resources, and issues to directly relevant to their school and district. Any union meddling in State legislation not directly related to education within their immediate purview and meddling in any Federal issues has ceased to exist for their original purpose and is now lobbying beyond their purpose. They should be broken up. This also should apply to firefighters, ironworkers, service workers, postal workers, teachers, and yes, the police. 


 

Well said, sir.  Thank you!  Post of the year.

I had very similar experiences. 

My college degrees will not be there when you dial 911.   But YOU will want me all the same.

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Just now, blueiron said:

Now I have three and am at Harvard Extension. They needed a token libertarian.

Ha!  As bad as i am about it.   When i was i college i wanted to collect all the degrees and specialize in the advanced study of co-ed redheads.

How's the extension?  I looked hard at it.

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At the Grad level, everything is reading and reading. Then, contemplation and more reading.

It isn't easy and my past professor is a Russian, so there are cultural differences and different outlooks. Not all classes are taught every semester, so there is scheduling of no class this period and two classes next semester. The good thing about Grad school is that one has to have a passion [or should] for the subject and that can make all the work more palatable. 

I didn't have the time to move to Cambridge for a year or two, so Extension made sense for me.

The funny thing is that since most colleges at Harvard are closed to in-person classes [not certain about the Dental, Med, or Law schools], they are paying a premium for the "Hah-vaard experience" and they are now not receiving it. HES was always a bit looked down upon by the Colleges and Houses, but now they are doing exactly was the Extension is and it is tearing them up emotionally. The diplomas are different - one may say the "John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University for a ALM, while the HES one says ALM at HES and little else. There is a push to get HES renamed to simply the UG college at Harvard University or Harvard University, but the fudds who were part of a House still bear the elitist attitude.

I can't formally say I attended/graduated Harvard, I have to say Harvard Extension. I simply laugh at the whole WASP thing and now some of the minorities who parrot the same thinking.

 

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21 minutes ago, blueiron said:

I can't formally say I attended/graduated Harvard, I have to say Harvard Extension. I simply laugh at the whole WASP thing and now some of the minorities who parrot the same thinking.
 

I can say the same thing about a university in my state.   Pretty good one.  Nothing to laugh at.  I did some graduate work there and received a certificate.   It was good.  I enjoyed the process.  But nothing beats ass in the chair for education.   Online is great in many ways.  In others it can't be done as well.

Anyway.  I am seriously considering going back to school once again...because i enjoy it.

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35 minutes ago, Historian said:

 Online is great in many ways.  In others it can't be done as well.

Anyway.  I am seriously considering going back to school once again...because i enjoy it.

I went back in 2015 and got a certificate in Internet Programming and Development.  Half of the classes were in person and half were online.  I got more out of the online classes because it was easier to stop it and copy the code.  But, being a 58 year old student in classes full of 20 somethings and 30 somethings took some getting used to. 

Now, I can do the Intrawebs ....

http://chronosscifi.com/blogIndex.html

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1 hour ago, minervadoe said:

I went back in 2015 and got a certificate in Internet Programming and Development.  Half of the classes were in person and half were online.  I got more out of the online classes because it was easier to stop it and copy the code.  But, being a 58 year old student in classes full of 20 somethings and 30 somethings took some getting used to. 

Now, I can do the Intrawebs ....

http://chronosscifi.com/blogIndex.html

Well, that's interesting.  You have a blog!  Ok, i'll have to read it over.  :)

Sounds like you had a good time keeping up with those younger types and you enjoyed it.  Usually the older more mature students are better than the younger ones.  They have life's experiences to back them up and a desire to finish what they start.  

You can learn a lot in a program like that.

I am a big advocate of distance learning.    If you are dedicated and invest the time you can do remarkable things with a good program.  I buy a lot of classes from places like Pluralsite (not as much) and Cloud Guru to augment what the department pays for each year.  Usually i get one good solid class in storage or virtualization.   This year i got a class in Powershell and two in CommVault.

My job has changed over the years.   I'm still sworn.   I just work a totally different element within law enforcement.  

And there are days i want to put in for patrol.   The rules of engagement are better than dealing with management.

For fun I've taken classes with Master Class (relatively new) and The Great Courses.  I did an 83 lecture series on the Catholic church with them.  I watched every video but did not do all the suggested reading.  I could have...but then i think i would have been better becoming a monk to totally dedicate myself to the cause.  But Mrs. Historian would likely object to my new job.

But if anyone ever did all 83 lectures and all the reading they are one seriously well educated person.

Right now i'm watching a video on secret societies. I'd tell you more.  But they are secret.  And...i swore a vow of secrecy over the one i joined!  

Never more!

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2 minutes ago, Historian said:

And there are days i want to put in for patrol.   The rules of engagement are better than dealing with management.

I rarely enjoyed working with anyone at V.P. level, but pretty well didn't have issues with other middle managers.  But, some managers make up for their lack of competence by becoming expert at making other people look bad.  In retrospect, I'm glad I'm done with it. 

2 minutes ago, Historian said:

Right now i'm watching a video on secret societies. I'd tell you more.  But they are secret.  And...i swore a vow of secrecy over the one i joined!  

That's okay.  All of those secret handshakes remind me of the Lodge on The Flintstones. 

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