steve4102 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 hour ago, RenoF250 said: Nationalist does not mean violent and it has nothing to do with left or right. Nazi's were far LEFT nationalists. I cannot understand why anyone would not put their country first and be a nationalist. Nazi's were not nationalists, they were and still are Supremacists. YUGE Difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshe Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 hour ago, RenoF250 said: Nationalist does not mean violent and it has nothing to do with left or right. Nazi's were far LEFT nationalists. I cannot understand why anyone would not put their country first and be a nationalist. NAZI's were far Right Nationalists who went to war with the far Left Communists in Russia if you recall. It wasn't just about the shoa, that was a crazy leader whom everyone though charismatic and wanted to follow who blamed their economic woes on Jews instead of the real cause, their loss in World War II, and he indemnities put on Germany after the loss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshe Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, steve4102 said: Nazi's were not nationalists, they were and still are Supremacists. YUGE Difference. Not much, really. As they were excessive Nationalists which is why that is a word make a lot of us uneasy. The Supremacy came from their Dear Leader who took out his aggression on people that had nothing to with their financial woes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyofforty Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Moshe said: NAZI's were far Right Nationalists who went to war with the far Left Communists in Russia if you recall. It wasn't just about the shoa, that was a crazy leader whom everyone though charismatic and wanted to follow who blamed their economic woes on Jews instead of the real cause, their loss in World War II, and he indemnities put on Germany after the loss. Hitler was BIG GOVERNMENT SOCIALIST. Leftwing radical. Leftwing. Own it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshe Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Just now, fortyofforty said: Hitler was BIG GOVERNMENT SOCIALIST. Leftwing radical. Leftwing. Own it. I studied it. I am not going to own a fiction, and a revisionist history, for an excuse for modern day Nationalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyofforty Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 When leftwing Socialists battle it out, they're brutal, if you recall. Hitler the Socialist cooperated with Lenin the Socialist and Stalin the Socialist, if you remember. They cooperated militarily, if you recall. Then, they even signed a treaty, if you recollect. Stalin pumped resources to Germany while Hitler attacked the capitalist west, if you recall. But, like the Bolsheviks attacking the Social Revolutionaries or Mensheviks, Hitler turned on his fellow Socialists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitesite Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Chris Plante. The best. On WMAL in D.C. . And funny as hell. Doesn't take himself seriously. Michael Weiner Savage can FOAD as far as conservative radio is concerned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshe Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 49 minutes ago, PNWguy said: He hates all hunters. He has the exact same arguments and sociopathic attitude as PETA members. He is anti "assault weapon" and normal capacity mags. He is losing stations at a massive rate because his true colors have been showing the last couple of years and real conservatives stopped listening to him. Plus, he just a dick, really. A rude, self-important, narcissistic pathetic little man. I guess that makes Savage our next President is these last two have taught us what is popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyofforty Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Moshe said: I studied it. I am not going to own a fiction, and a revisionist history, for an excuse for modern day Nationalism. I know far more about it than you ever will, no matter how hard you try to understand. Unfortunately, your level of comprehension is stuck at the high school "bumper sticker" level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshe Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Just now, fortyofforty said: I know far more about it than you ever will, no matter how hard you try to understand. Unfortunately, your level of comprehension is stuck at the high school "bumper sticker" level. So, you have ran out of ideas already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyofforty Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 Here's a little test: What does Nazi stand for? What does USSR stand for? What is the difference between a Socialist and a Democrat? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyofforty Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, Moshe said: So, you have ran out of ideas already? Is that all you have? More "bumper sticker" analysis? Hitler was right wing because he loved big government, total control over all aspects of society, and destruction of freedom of speech. Sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glocks4Freedom Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 From a plaque @ the US House of Representatives: "Moses (c. 1350–1250 B.C.) Hebrew prophet and lawgiver; transformed a wandering people into a nation; received the Ten Commandments." Yeah, my favourite Nationalist! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyofforty Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 How many people have been killed by Socialists? Easily hundreds of millions. Only Socialists can amass the political power needed to organize a vast police state, with control over what cars you may drive, what lightbulbs you may buy, what straws you use, what voices you may hear, what books you may read. I understand how repulsive it must be to admit Hitler and Stalin were birds of a leftwing feather who willingly flocked together, but the facts speak loudly and clearly for themselves. As I said, own it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyofforty Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 Was Hitler leftwing or rightwing? Was Stalin leftwing or rightwing? Why? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve4102 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 52 minutes ago, Moshe said: Not much, really. As they were excessive Nationalists which is why that is a word make a lot of us uneasy. The Supremacy came from their Dear Leader who took out his aggression on people that had nothing to with their financial woes. 100% WRONG. It makes you "uneasy" because you have allowed yourself to follow the Media Narrative, that America is Bad, America FIRST is bad, Americans are Bad, White Americans are worse than Bad. The Media and the Democrats have taken the word, "Nationalist" and use it synonymously with the word "Supremacist" as if they mean the same thing. They have used the phrase "White Supremacist" and White Nationalist" in the same sentence as if they are one in the same. As a result, the fools and Sheeple have been indoctrinated to believe that a Nationalist (America First) is a racist, homophone, nazi, bigoted skin head that wants an all white world. Nothing could be further from the truth. A Nationalist is just that, His/her NATION First and to hell with the NWO and Globalists. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve4102 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, fortyofforty said: Was Hitler leftwing or rightwing? Was Stalin leftwing or rightwing? Why? Far left. Fascist, Socialist, Communist, Democrat = Same. Edited January 4, 2019 by steve4102 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyofforty Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, steve4102 said: Far left. Fascist, Socialist, Communist, Democrat = Same. For the win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Czervik Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Moshe said: Communist Anarchists See, that's just not how it works. The two are mutually exclusive. So-called academia and enlightened folks push the idea of a circular model of the political spectrum where all stuff they don't like meet at one point. However, that is not reality. The political spectrum is linear. On the far left, government controls everything (fascists, commies, etc). On the far right, there is no government, or anarchy. So, a communist anarchist, can't rationally exist. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenoF250 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Moshe said: So, you have ran out of ideas already? Where are your ideas? Tell us what the nazis did that was conservative. Did they lower taxes? Pro-liberty? Pro-gun? Against abortion? For family values? Do you have one thing? No, because they were SOCIALIST that is left wing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenoF250 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 6 hours ago, PNWguy said: If you want truly intelligent and reasonable discussion on talk radio, then you listen to Dennis Prager. Or Buck Sexton. Or Lars Larson. Sean Hannity is an intellectual lightweight and annoying. Glenn Beck is insane and in the same boat as Savage. Rush is OK, but has been out of touch with reality for years. Not sure if he really understands or respects what it means to be a blue-collar working poor conservative. Any time he starts blathering on about his latest golf tourney with celebs, I turn him off. I can fully understand why you don't like him, he is an egotistical ass. Like I said, at least he owns that. I generally listen to Armstrong and Getty. Funny and fair but they took the holiday off so I listened to Savage. He has his high points and plenty of lows. Certainly does not deserve to be threatened though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moeman Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 15 hours ago, fortyofforty said: Hitler was BIG GOVERNMENT SOCIALIST. Leftwing radical. Leftwing. Own it. If he was so left wing how come the big industrial companies when they rolled, Krupp, Mann, BMW, Heinkel etc made so much money? Slave labor? You are one weird dude. Fascist policy’s reward industry, they don’t make them state owned. They just want their cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crockett Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 27 minutes ago, Moeman said: If he was so left wing how come the big industrial companies when they rolled, Krupp, Mann, BMW, Heinkel etc made so much money? Slave labor? You are one weird dude. Fascist policy’s reward industry, they don’t make them state owned. They just want their cut. Nazism = National Socialism Left side: You say fortyofforty is a weird guy? Your repetitive and false troll crap gets old. Why don't you take it to some liberal forum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshe Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 15 hours ago, Glocks4Freedom said: From a plaque @ the US House of Representatives: "Moses (c. 1350–1250 B.C.) Hebrew prophet and lawgiver; transformed a wandering people into a nation; received the Ten Commandments." Yeah, my favourite Nationalist! That's nice, but more accurately it was a Theocracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshe Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 28 minutes ago, crockett said: Nazism = National Socialism Left side: You say fortyofforty is a weird guy? Your repetitive and false troll crap gets old. Why don't you take it to some liberal forum. Fun chart. Heritage Club, perhaps? Now, why would two people claiming to have Socialist in their agenda be at odds enough to war with each other? Doesn't make sense, unless the title chosen is not accurate. Rather than the studying the historical basis of the regimes, you glom onto a title. You can call yourselves anything: Democratic People's Republic of North Korea for instance. Is it a Democracy? A Republic? Is it for the people, or on the their backs by one soulless man? It is actually a Dictatorship of the highest order. What something says it is, and what it actually is, are often two different things. For instance, as the cliché goes the Holy Roman Empire was neither Holy nor Roman, nor an Empire. It was a title bestowed upon a loyal country by the Pontiff. So, if you are going to accept carte blanche what someone names their government, you might miss out on what is actually going on. Because I am not a Nationalistic but a Patriotic person, you choose to excoriate me as troll? I suppose you two, are out ideas that are useful for discussion or argument? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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