Heisenberg Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 On 12/24/2018 at 1:52 PM, MikeG36 said: 38 Special sucks Care to explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshe Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Heisenberg said: The term 'stopping power' is gibberish. What is your factual basis for asserting '38 Special FMJ'? Further, what round with 'stopping power' would have immobilized a subject after being struck once (anterior to posterior) in the upper arm or upper shoulder? FMJ will go through one body into another. That is why hollow points are widely used. Now, if you don't care who gets killed FMJ is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Moshe said: FMJ will go through one body into another. That is why hollow points are widely used. Now, if you don't care who gets killed FMJ is the way to go. Your reply has no relationship to my comment/questions. Edited December 28, 2018 by Heisenberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshe Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Heisenberg said: Your reply has no relationship to my comment/questions. What point do you have, then, Junior? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Moshe said: What point do you have, then, Junior? My statement was quite clear, as were my two questions. (sorry I hurt your feelings) Edited December 28, 2018 by Heisenberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshe Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Heisenberg said: My statement was quite clear, as were my two questions. (sorry I hurt your feelings) Well, first of all, I have to know you to care about you. The only person able to hurt my feelings are my wife and my father. You are neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar_ml Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 "stopping power" seems to be a made up idea that we see a lot in hollywood films. Unless the central nervous system is disrupted, or a huge amount of energy is transferred, the target isn't going to just stop. If the cartridge doesn't have enough energy to knock you over backwards when firing it, then it's not going to knock the bad guy over either. Yeah, the bigger the bullet and faster it's going the more likely it is that the shock effect will affect the bad guy, but one report will show a guy taking multiple high powered rifle rounds to the chest and keep fighting, and later survive, whereas another guy can get shot with a .22lr in the arm and keel over dead. Some people get so pumped up on adrenaline they don't even realize they are hit until someone points it out to them, and anyone on drugs The one consistent thing with every shooting is that it was a shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 4 hours ago, Cougar_ml said: "stopping power" seems to be a made up idea that we see a lot in hollywood films. Unless the central nervous system is disrupted, or a huge amount of energy is transferred, the target isn't going to just stop. If the cartridge doesn't have enough energy to knock you over backwards when firing it, then it's not going to knock the bad guy over either. Yeah, the bigger the bullet and faster it's going the more likely it is that the shock effect will affect the bad guy, but one report will show a guy taking multiple high powered rifle rounds to the chest and keep fighting, and later survive, whereas another guy can get shot with a .22lr in the arm and keel over dead. Some people get so pumped up on adrenaline they don't even realize they are hit until someone points it out to them, and anyone on drugs The one consistent thing with every shooting is that it was a shooting. I remember first seeing the term "stopping power" used in gun-rags of the late 80's, after that it just became more and more prevalent. It still baffles me that people are so willing to even acknowledge such gibberish, let alone repeat it with any sort perceived authority. The same sort of logic process (or lack there of) is what has made people so obsessed with 'gel-tests' even though they do not represent what actually happens in living creatures, in reality they have become clever marketing tools for ammo makers to expensive ammunition in pretty boxes. Yet people cay on and on about 'stretch cavities' 'radial tearing' and even go so far as to use the term 'wound track'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 6 hours ago, Moshe said: Well, first of all, I have to know you to care about you. The only person able to hurt my feelings are my wife and my father. You are neither. Again, sorry I hurt your feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshe Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 On 12/28/2018 at 8:00 PM, Heisenberg said: Again, sorry I hurt your feelings. You didn't. I find it amusing you assume you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrB Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 If any of you, after watching this video, want to get rid of your useless .38spl. revolvers. You can send them to me along with all your ammo and I will make sure they are disposed of properly. A public service announcement....... Dave.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 On 12/30/2018 at 10:47 AM, Moshe said: You didn't. I find it amusing you assume you did. And yet here you are, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usnret Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 On 12/28/2018 at 7:00 PM, Heisenberg said: I remember first seeing the term "stopping power" used in gun-rags of the late 80's, after that it just became more and more prevalent. It still baffles me that people are so willing to even acknowledge such gibberish, let alone repeat it with any sort perceived authority. The same sort of logic process (or lack there of) is what has made people so obsessed with 'gel-tests' even though they do not represent what actually happens in living creatures, in reality they have become clever marketing tools for ammo makers to expensive ammunition in pretty boxes. Yet people cay on and on about 'stretch cavities' 'radial tearing' and even go so far as to use the term 'wound track'. I know this drives some here kinda buggy but an interesting little review. Not etched in stone and brought down from the mountain top but interesting none-the-less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjv Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Maybe he just needs a better choice in ammo. Don't know what he was carrying but it might have been old 158 grain round nose lead. . . Maybe HP ammo is illegal in his state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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