pipedreams Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 I don't think they know who they are dealing with. "One Honduran migrant told reporters that he plans to wait until 20,000 migrants have arrived in Tijuana, then as a group, the migrants will rush the U.S. port of entry together. The man also told reporters that he has no intention of applying for asylum, calling the process of “a waste of time.” Pat described the migrants’ position on the U.S. process for seeking asylum as being “entitled.” Other migrants told reporters that they have no intention of applying for asylum, making the position a commonly held practice of disregarding U.S. law." https://www.theblaze.com/video/watch-entitled-migrant-said-that-he-wants-to-send-a-message-to-president-trump 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBud Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 And here's a message to them: A face full of Israeli Skunk! Repeat as needed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtnBiker Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 In any other country, an advance like that would be met with live ammunition. After the first 20 or so fall, the rest would feel less entitled. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWARREN123 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 I do believe we are going to have to go to live ammo before it is over! 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 If what you have isn't worth defending, then you have nothing at all! 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windowasher Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Didn't we have to deal with a situation much like this in 1950...in Korea? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) Three things: 1) Trump said he had an agreement with the incoming Mexican gov’t to keep them until they can be processed (claiming victory that they haven’t crossed the border) 2) Incoming Mexican gov’t says there is no such agreement 3) Tijuana mayor says the city can’t take the strain and funds will run out in days intelligence + experience will tell you what is about to happen....... we will pay Tijuana “funds” to keep them (until they can be processed in) declare victory as they “didn’t get across the border” The base will cheer and ignore reality. “Trump keeping promises” and they will cross a few at a time while we pay for them. They’re coming, just slower. They are not being stopped, but delayed With U.S. border inspectors at the main crossing into San Diego processing only about 100 asylum claims a day, it could take weeks if not months to process the thousands in the caravan that departed from San Pedro Sula, Honduras, more than a month ago. . Edited November 28, 2018 by Dric902 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-asylum-seekers-notebook-holds-key-to-entry-20180705-story.html there is a very telling line in this story: As a result, the asylum seekers have been left to camp out near the U.S.-Mexico border. Sometimes they linger for up to a month in more than two dozen temporary shelters in Tijuana. i’ll bet next weeks pay we will fund those “temporary shelters’ . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreams Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 Most of them don't qualify for asylum and many have said they don't want it but their coming anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 I heard from two different talking heads this morning. the Republicans want the issue for 2020. They don’t want the funding, but the fight for funding. And that’s how Trump wins re-election. theyre coming, nobody is going to stop them, just take smaller groups and pay a lot of lip service to the base. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshe Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 That is why you put the Marines on the Border with the USBP. Posse Comitatus does not apply to them. It has been an undeclared warzone down there for years, with rocks, bullets and more. Bullets mostly from HK .308's from the Mexican Military. I would have loved to have Marines with me taking rounds from Mexican regulars working for the cartels. They had better toys to see where the shooter was hiding in the bamboo on the other side of the Rio Grande and then we could try to kill them back. When the Army National Guard came down back in the day, they had to store their M-16's in our armory and sit around unarmed, and essentially pointless. I woke up a dentist one night shift, who was leaned back in a chair on the Custom's X-Ray shop. Their presence didn't help, it hindered. They were unarmed, so that was one more person to try and keep track of, so they didn't get beaten up or killed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 As has been stated before, passé cumitatas applies to all military forces of the US as has been codified into the US Code While the act does not explicitly mention the United States Navy and the United States Marine Corps, the Department of the Navy has prescribed regulations that are generally construed to give the act force with respect to those services as well. and then qualified in the US Code: 10 U.S.C. § 275. Restriction on direct participation by military personnel under this chapter does not include or permit direct participation by a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps in a search, seizure, arrest, or other similar activity it has never been declared a war zone, as you would, by necessity, have to declare war . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshe Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dric902 said: As has been stated before, passé cumitatas applies to all military forces of the US as has been codified into the US Code While the act does not explicitly mention the United States Navy and the United States Marine Corps, the Department of the Navy has prescribed regulations that are generally construed to give the act force with respect to those services as well. and then qualified in the US Code: 10 U.S.C. § 275. Restriction on direct participation by military personnel under this chapter does not include or permit direct participation by a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps in a search, seizure, arrest, or other similar activity it has never been declared a war zone, as you would, by necessity, have to declare war . No. First it applied to the Army, then to the Air Force, but has never been extended to the Navy or Marine Corps. So, it would be more logical to send the Marine Corps down to this long undeclared war, so they can actually shoot back, instead of just taking rounds like the Army Reserve. And even though the puddle jumping Coasties guard the water ways under DHS, they are still adopted by the DOJ for purposes of veteran status. USBP, takes more casualties and does the same job on land, and are under DHS in a paramilitary system, but are not considered veterans. It is one gaggled mess. So, since the Navy wants the Puddle Jumpers and so does DHS, it rather underscores that Posse Comitatus does not apply to the Navy, and so far not the Marine Corps. Edited November 28, 2018 by Moshe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) Yes, 10 US Code 10 U.S. Code § 275 - Restriction on direct participation by military personnel The Secretary of Defense shall prescribe such regulations as may be necessary to ensure that any activity (including the provision of any equipment or facility or the assignment or detail of any personnel) under this chapter does not include or permit direct participation by a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corpsin a search, seizure, arrest, or other similar activity unless participation in such activity by such member is otherwise authorized by law. (Added Pub. L. 97–86, title IX § 905(a)(1), Dec. 1, 1981, 95 Stat. 1116, § 375; amended Pub. L. 100–456, div. A, title XI, § 1104(a), Sept. 29, 1988, 102 Stat. 2045; Pub. L. 101–189, div. A, title XII, § 1211, Nov. 29, 1989, 103 Stat. 1567; renumbered § 275, Pub. L. 114–328, div. A, title XII, § 1241(a)(2), Dec. 23, 2016, 130 Stat. 2497.) passe cumitatas applies to all US military personnel. I’m not the one saying it, the United States Code says it. That’s Statute, that’s law, that’s binding, that’s legal and signed. you don’t have to like it, it just is. . Edited November 28, 2018 by Dric902 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 http://humanevents.com/2018/11/28/trumps-great-wall-becomes-trumps-great-stall/ instead of winning, we’re getting whining. We’re told it’s Congress’ fault for not giving Trump money to build the wall! The ACLU will sue! A judge will stop him! Blame Paul Ryan! (Possible Trump epitaph: Chuck wouldn’t let me!) President Reagan bombed Libya in retaliation for two U.S. serviceman being killed by a bomb in a West Berlin discotheque — TWO! But Trump thinks he needs the preapproval of Congress, the ACLU and a district court judge in Hawaii to do something about tens of thousands of Americans being killed every year by illegal alien heroin dealers, drunk drivers and straight-up murderers. Reagan invaded Grenada because the country was becoming a Soviet client state. No Grenadian threatened to touch a hair on any American’s head. One wonders what Reagan’s reaction would have been to someone telling him, YOU CAN’T DO THAT! THE ACLU WILL SUE! If Reagan had Trump’s advisers, we’d be speaking Russian. The ACLU, the Center for Constitutional Rights, the Southern Poverty Law Center and the other anti-American groups opposing Trump on immigration were the very same groups that opposed Reagan. They would have been happy if the U.S.S.R. had nuked this country. Sadly for them, Reagan kept his promises, and we won the Cold War. So now the back-up plan is to destroy our country by flooding it with the Third World. We needed Reagan and got P.T. Barnum instead. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glocks4Freedom Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 On 11/27/2018 at 8:44 AM, MtnBiker said: After the first 20 or so fall, the rest would feel less entitled. I usually favour nukes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar_ml Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 22 hours ago, Glocks4Freedom said: I usually favour nukes... I'd prefer if nukes were left as a last resort, not a first option. On the other hand, how many MOABs does it take to dig a moat between gulf of mexico and the pacific ocean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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