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I also remember with the .40 came out.  I remember when the News made a huge issue about some fashion designer was shot with an "unusual" caliber, a .40.

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12 hours ago, Spats McGee said:

Nah, not boredom, but the idea has been temporarily shelved.  The P239 looks nice.  I'm not terribly comfortable with decockers, but that might cause me less heartburn in a carry gun than the paddle mag release that HK uses.

It’s not for everyone. I cut my teeth when the alloy frame DA autos were at the height of their popularity. There are a lot more options nowadays. 

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On 11/22/2018 at 6:08 AM, Spats McGee said:

 

4. CZ P10C -- Again, almost identical to the G19, but I don't know that my local range will have any for me to shoot.  How's this one doing out in the real world?

 

Just wanted to mention that I just had a range session with a CZ P10c and was able to shoot it side by side with a G19.

My BIL just bought one and hadn't shot it yet, so we took it along with my new G19 Gen 5 out for a quick range session.

The trigger definitely was not as good as the Glock's; longer pull and a bit mushy and heavier, but not bad.  Probably equal to the average Glock Gen 4 trigger.

Ergonomics were excellent; fit both of our hands perfectly and pointed very naturally.  Fit and finish was very good and it is a good looking pistol.  Steel sights were nice and they were aligned perfectly out of the box; unlike my new Glock's.

My BIL liked the grip angle of the CZ better than the Glock's.  He kept hitting about an inch or so low with the Glock and was right on with the CZ.  I was right on with both.

The CZ is just a tad bigger than the G19 and it seems like a full-size pistol in comparison.  You hold them next to each other and there is little difference, but when shooting the CZ, it just felt like a full-sized pistol compared to the Glock.  Weird.

Also, the grip texture was super aggressive.  It actually irritated both of our hands after just a couple of magazines.  And he's a farmer, so no sissy city boy hands.

But, he was able to buy his for $386 and I paid nearly $200 more for my MOS G19.  I think the proven track record and billions of aftermarket options are worth it, IMHO.

The good thing about a Glock is that if you don't like it, you can modify it into something that you do like.

Another option for you is to buy one of those Polymer 80 frames for around $100.  It totally changes the grip angle and a lot of guys love them.  It would be a lot cheaper than buying another pistol.

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I am a fan of HK's that aren't striker fired.

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I have a HKC Stainless .45 for myself, cocked and locked in a holster.  I also have the stainless .40  USP cocked and locked in a holster.  I a fan of the cocked and locked feature from my Springfield MC Operator .45, and FNX-45 Tactical with a light and Red dot cocked and locked on my hip at them moment.  I like having pistols with more than one option.  Also, you can tell, I love the 230 grain .45 ACP.  My 9mm's are Glocks.

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I came of pistol age in the 1990’s when the .40 was emerging.  The P30 is an S version in .40 S&W loaded with 180 grain JHP. 

I carry. Gen. 3 Glock 23 most of the time. I live on a lake and spend a lot of time on a boat so I recently ordered something smaller that dovetails into this thread—-a Wather PPQ SC. 

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On 2/7/2019 at 10:14 AM, Moshe said:

I have a HKC Stainless .45 for myself, cocked and locked in a holster.  I also have the stainless .40  USP cocked and locked in a holster.  I a fan of the cocked and locked feature from my Springfield MC Operator .45, and FNX-45 Tactical with a light and Red dot cocked and locked on my hip at them moment.  I like having pistols with more than one option.  Also, you can tell, I love the 230 grain .45 ACP.  My 9mm's are Glocks.

I carry 9mm, but I sure do enjoy shooting .45.  From time to time, I toy with the idea of switching back to it for carry, but I never seem to get around to it.

20 hours ago, Will Beararms said:

I came of pistol age in the 1990’s when the .40 was emerging.  The P30 is an S version in .40 S&W loaded with 180 grain JHP. 

I carry. Gen. 3 Glock 23 most of the time. I live on a lake and spend a lot of time on a boat so I recently ordered something smaller that dovetails into this thread—-a Wather PPQ SC. 

I've been eyeballing an HK VP9 or VP9SK as a range gun, and recently got to handle a P30.  Or maybe it was a P30L?  Not sure.  I can't see CC-ing any of those, but they sure do feel good in the hand. 

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HK P30 carries fairly well under an untucked shirt, jacket or vest but you have to be one who prefers to shoot fulll size and mid size handguns. 

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On ‎2‎/‎8‎/‎2019 at 8:38 AM, Will Beararms said:

I came of pistol age in the 1990’s when the .40 was emerging.  The P30 is an S version in .40 S&W loaded with 180 grain JHP. 

I carry. Gen. 3 Glock 23 most of the time. I live on a lake and spend a lot of time on a boat so I recently ordered something smaller that dovetails into this thread—-a Wather PPQ SC. 

Yes, I owned a full size Glock .40 for years.  I remember the arguments in high school about .40 versus 10mm.  You think there were some heated arguments about calibers now.

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25 minutes ago, Moshe said:

Yes, I owned a full size Glock .40 for years.  I remember the arguments in high school about .40 versus 10mm.  You think there were some heated arguments about calibers now.

At this point in life, I am not going to get rid of the .40’s. It would be a waste to do so. 

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Just now, Will Beararms said:

At this point in life, I am not going to get rid of the .40’s. It would be a waste to do so. 

I own one now.  It is the HK USP, with a stainless slide.  Carefully cocked and locked in it's holster.  Occasionally, I pull it out to insure there is no rusting going on from the leather.  Most pistols I prefer kydex.

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On 8/17/2019 at 2:50 PM, Will Beararms said:

Spats, 

Did you get another pistol?

No, I did not.  I still think about replacing her from time to time, but I haven't yet done it.  The truth of the matter is: 

(1) I can't afford to buy another pistol unless I sell something. 

(2) My G19 runs very reliably.

(3) I have a hard time letting go of a reliable gun.  Any reliable gun.

(4) I really don't carry my G19 any more.  My Shield has pretty much made it a bench-warmer. 

With all of that said, I still consider selling off my G19 to fund something else from time to time.  All of the pistols in my OP are still on the list, and I've added the G48 and a couple of others, like the VP9SK.  

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