ASH Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 https://www.cnet.com/news/5g-is-almost-a-reality-heres-what-itll-really-feel-like-verizon-att-t-mobile-sprint-samsung-qualcomm/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWPA Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Wow, and I'm still using a 3G flip phone, which, I really like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stk10767 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Verizon has installed dozens of 5g cell sites where I work. They are mounted on top of regular telephone poles. The antenna itself is a cylinder about 12”in diameter and 24” tall. In speaking with the Verizon techs, these antennas are line of sight, so they install one every couple hundred feet. They are throwing a LOT of money at this. I mean a LOT. The infrastructure for 5g is completely different from current cell tower technology. It’s like starting from scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Somehow I just don't feel that 5 gbps is worth the hype. I do appreciate all those idiotic analogies to illustrate how much faster 5 gbps is than 1 gbps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmohme Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 3 hours ago, gwalchmai said: Somehow I just don't feel that 5 gbps is worth the hype. I do appreciate all those idiotic analogies to illustrate how much faster 5 gbps is than 1 gbps... I would be thrilled to just get the 1gbps that you mention. Where I live we don't have internet. We have inter-not. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 We have ATT "Giga-Power" fiber, which gives me a pretty consistent 1gbps connection. I usually get about 900 mbps up/down on SpeedTest.net when connected directly to the router. I get about 300 mbps up/down through WiFi, which is fine for most stuff we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stk10767 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 5g is going to be more than just faster cell phone downloads. It is a fundamental change in the way we interact with the world. It is going to enable real-time information flow for just about anything that uses electricity, and even things that don’t ...yet. Imagine real time micropayments for specific electronic content. Imagine being able to monetize your labor by the second. Intellectual property will be secured personally and permanently. It’s almost like the industry is years ahead of the use cases. Kinda like a ‘build it first and then figure out what to do with it’ attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBud Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 21 minutes ago, stk10767 said: 5g is going to be more than just faster cell phone downloads. It is a fundamental change in the way we interact with the world. It is going to enable real-time information flow for just about anything that uses electricity, and even things that don’t ...yet. Imagine real time micropayments for specific electronic content. Imagine being able to monetize your labor by the second. Intellectual property will be secured personally and permanently. It’s almost like the industry is years ahead of the use cases. Kinda like a ‘build it first and then figure out what to do with it’ attitude. You been smoking that stuff for long? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borg warner Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 I like having a mobile phone but all I need it to do is two things: Hello, and Goodbye. I don't need my whole world to be wrapped up in an electronic device. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTMac Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 This is almost useless to the customer without higher data caps. Those will eventually come. One thing that doesn't get talked about is how higher speeds help keep infrastructure unburdened. The sooner your data is transferred, the sooner your device stops tying up resources. But the faster the speed, the more people want to use it instead of any alternatives. It's a constant race. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali-Glock Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 ... and in other parts of the country (rural California) ATT is building basic cell towers and bragging that next year people like me will supposedly (and finally) have basic cell service! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTMac Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Cali-Glock said: ... and in other parts of the country (rural California) ATT is building basic cell towers and bragging that next year people like me will supposedly (and finally) have basic cell service! ? I'll believe that when we get better than 768k DSL out at the family home. Even that was a miracle when it arrived not that long ago. If Elon Musk can get his low orbit (and therefore low latency) satellite internet going, I can live the good life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huaco Kid Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 So, instead of being phone-tracked to a couple square mile area, we can be tracked to within a telephone pole distance. Brilliant! I'm sure there is no commercial or social reasoning built in. But it's OK. I already love Big Brother. N'at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huaco Kid Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 In China, (and they've said they already have every city-dweller facial-ID'd) if you spit on the sidewalk too much or shoplift or drink too much, you are a social liability and your kid can't go to school, you can't use public transportation, can't get permission to travel anywhere. No Soup For You! They've said the plan will be fully implemented by 2020. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 3 hours ago, Huaco Kid said: In China, (and they've said they already have every city-dweller facial-ID'd) if you spit on the sidewalk too much or shoplift or drink too much, you are a social liability and your kid can't go to school, you can't use public transportation, can't get permission to travel anywhere. No Soup For You! They've said the plan will be fully implemented by 2020. Every Socialist/Democrat dream. No dissention. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBud Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 4 hours ago, Huaco Kid said: In China, (and they've said they already have every city-dweller facial-ID'd) if you spit on the sidewalk too much or shoplift or drink too much, you are a social liability and your kid can't go to school, you can't use public transportation, can't get permission to travel anywhere. No Soup For You! They've said the plan will be fully implemented by 2020. How can they do that? They all look alike! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huaco Kid Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 55 minutes ago, BamaBud said: How can they do that? They all look alike! And it's linked to internet searches and social postings. I think you just earned a job as a Port-A-Jong cleaner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyjohnson Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 it`s going to be either genuinely life altering or all price raising hype. but i don`t have a cell phone so i really won`t know.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huaco Kid Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 11 minutes ago, holyjohnson said: but i don`t have a cell phone so i really won`t know.... It'll triple or quadruple my video watching up to zero! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyjohnson Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 18 minutes ago, Huaco Kid said: It'll triple or quadruple my video watching up to zero! but all my no texts and selfies will remain the same speed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTMac Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) On 11/23/2018 at 12:40 PM, Cali-Glock said: ... and in other parts of the country (rural California) ATT is building basic cell towers and bragging that next year people like me will supposedly (and finally) have basic cell service! ? 23 hours ago, JTMac said: I'll believe that when we get better than 768k DSL out at the family home. Even that was a miracle when it arrived not that long ago. If Elon Musk can get his low orbit (and therefore low latency) satellite internet going, I can live the good life. OK, I guess I believe it. I was sitting here at the family place in the boonies and I noticed that my phone still hasn't run through its battery reserves as it usually does when so far out from a tower. I had MULTIPLE BARS, and LTE to boot! 33 Mbps down, 2.5 up, and 69ms ping time. I looked into it, and we are far enough out that AT&T is willing to give us a "fixed wireless" plan (their compromise to get the FCC off their back about rural broadband). $60 for 10 Mbps and a 170 GB cap, with overage charges instead of "throttling" (which in the case of every ISP that claims to throttle is actually traffic degradation, and there should be a lawsuit). 170 GB is a lot for them here, and maximum charge with overages is $200, so it is workable for our situation even if things go wrong. Maybe I'll be able to move out here sooner than I thought. Edited November 24, 2018 by JTMac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrB Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 On 10/18/2018 at 9:47 PM, jmohme said: I would be thrilled to just get the 1gbps that you mention. Where I live we don't have internet. We have inter-not. Same here... I wish...... I share your pain... Dave..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huaco Kid Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 7 hours ago, janice6 said: Every Socialist/Democrat dream. No dissention. Your friends and neighbors get bonus points for reporting you. And your friends and associates lose points if you do something wrong. Not sure how that works. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huaco Kid Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 That random spontaneous snot-rocket is right out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTMac Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 14 hours ago, Huaco Kid said: So, instead of being phone-tracked to a couple square mile area, we can be tracked to within a telephone pole distance. Brilliant! I'm sure there is no commercial or social reasoning built in. But it's OK. I already love Big Brother. N'at. Mobile phone service providers have been able to track you much, much more accurately than a couple of square miles for a while now if they were doing it actively and you were in a reasonably covered area. Even without your phone GPS. And if you were moving, then even looking back over time gave them better accuracy than that. The 5G towers being more numerous is because the laws of physics demand it. Not everything is about Big Brother. Don't get me wrong, Big Brother can get what they want on you via the new mobile phone tech... But they could with the old stuff, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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