Moeman Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 53 minutes ago, crockett said: You are not a conservative. I've read to many of your liberal / progressive leaning posts to buy that crap. All you do, is spewing your left leaning political hate on a forum that is occupied by 90 plus percent truly conservative members who (rather) stand behind Trump, well knowing that he is not perfect (nobody is). Trash talking Trump much like CNN does was already bad enough on GT, no need to start the same ****show over here. So you are cool with the 17% jump in the deficit and just want to unload on me. Fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moeman Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 54 minutes ago, Glocks4Freedom said: She's either a troll (90%) or a teenage-libertarian - those who think to have anal sex in Fith Avenue should be legal... because, you know, ... stuff. Reported. Just kidding, don’t do that. Even to scum posts and this is clearly scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borg warner Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, crockett said: You are not a conservative. I've read to many of your liberal / progressive leaning posts to buy that crap. All you do, is spewing your left leaning political hate on a forum that is occupied by 90 plus percent truly conservative members who (rather) stand behind Trump, well knowing that he is not perfect (nobody is). Trash talking Trump much like CNN does was already bad enough on GT, no need to start the same ****show over here. Right on, Crockett. There are legitimate things to criticize the president for but to use those things as evidence that this president is somehow a failure is dishonest because given what Obama had done to this country and how he corrupted our government (FBI, IRS. EPA, Justice dept, State dept.) and how Hillary would have continued that agenda, what Trump has done to not only make huge efforts to confront and put a stop to all that, but to actually begin to reverse the process is nothing short of miraculous. I am a strong fiscal conservative and what's more, I am a small government fiscal conservative and the best way to balance the budget and decrease the deficit is to drastically reduce the size and scope of the federal government. We need to eliminate entire government agencies. If you look at a flow chart of government agencies there is much that could be eliminated. Far too many people have government jobs and these people need to be transitioned to the private sector. It won't be easy but it has to be done and it needs to be done before we can even think about cutting entitlements or better yet initiating entitlement reform. But what stands in the way of an honest appraisal of the need to downsize government and cut the huge costs of big government is the government establishment itself which includes the entrenched establishments of both parties who are overwhelmingly LIBERAL and in favor of big government and are aided and abetted by the left wing news media establishment. It is a huge task and Trump is the only one who is willing and ABLE to take it on just as he's taken on so much else. Jeb Bush wouldn't have done it, John Kasich wouldn't have done it, Marco Rubio wouldn't have done it because they are all poart of the establishment. Ted Cruz might have tried but he could have never have beat Hillary in the election because he didn't have as broad a base of popular support as Trump and none of those other lightweights did either. Trump is criticized as a divisive figure who can't unite his own party. And many try their best to cultivate dissent among this President's supporters. And yet look what happened in the Kavanagh confirmation. All of the RINOs but one stood behind the president's nominee against all the sound and fury of the bitter angry butt-hurt Left. the tide is turning in favor of those who honestly want what's best for this country and the man who is moving us in the right direction Edited October 19, 2018 by Borg warner 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glocks4Freedom Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, Moeman said: Reported. Just kidding, don’t do that. Even to scum posts and this is clearly scum. As I said, there's a teenager behind this account: Didn't they teach you to reason, instead of reporting those who disagree with you? In reference to "Scum"... would you be willing to start a Poll on it? Have a nice day Miss! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tous Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) May I suggest that we place the blame at the feet of the legitimately guilty? The American voter. Yes, they are well aware that Congress spends money like a sixteen-year-old girl at the mall with her Daddy's credit card. Yes, they are well aware of what a deficit is, what debt is. Yet, they continue to give that allegorical sixteen-year-old girl the credit card and send her to the mall. Do they imagine that she will suddenly wish to spend less? Just as enablers of a friend's drug or alcohol addiction, the voting public enables the professional liars to spend money they don't have. The debt will come due one day, but the voter anticipates that it won't be his or her day, won't be his or her wallet emptied. It is far easier to blame one or a hundred than 200 million, no? Especially when one is amongst the 200 million. Edited October 19, 2018 by tous 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogart Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/17/2018 at 4:36 PM, Moeman said: Thanks! Coming from a delusional being called a moron gives me a laugh. If you can’t distill the message and circle the toilet being a hater... go on! Bring the septic slime. But you are the moron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moeman Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Bogart said: But you are the moron So I cite a hard number fact, others post back about anal sex, and I am the moron? Grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moeman Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 hours ago, tous said: May I suggest that we place the blame at the feet of the legitimately guilty? The American voter. Yes, they are well aware that Congress spends money like a sixteen-year-old girl at the mall with her Daddy's credit card. Yes, they are well aware of what a deficit is, what debt is. Yet, they continue to give that allegorical sixteen-year-old girl the credit card and send her to the mall. Do they imagine that she will suddenly wish to spend less? Just as enablers of a friend's drug or alcohol addiction, the voting public enables the professional liars to spend money they don't have. The debt will come due one day, but the voter anticipates that it won't be his or her day, won't be his or her wallet emptied. It is far easier to blame one or a hundred than 200 million, no? Especially when one is amongst the 200 million. Yep. Except what is the 200 million citation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moeman Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 3 hours ago, Glocks4Freedom said: As I said, there's a teenager behind this account: Didn't they teach you to reason, instead of reporting those who disagree with you? In reference to "Scum"... would you be willing to start a Poll on it? Have a nice day Miss! Tennager, I wish. Taking scouts on an overnight. You! Go to anal sex... really!! if this was my site, I’d boot you. It’s not. will they care when cone posts a hard stat and the ignorant likes of you get keyboard commando. Anal sex insults?Go ahead try your next insult, hopefully if the admin has a spine and yer out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tous Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Are you suggesting that the professional liars or the media tell the greedy and ignorant public that they are guilty of the Swamp? Why would either party do that? The liars lose their power, the media their customers, no? Their wealth is based on the myth of representative government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tous Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Stop it. Both of you. You're boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchman Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 11:42 PM, Moeman said: No new wars, bailout of Wall Street, lower business tax spend more on the DOD etc. your analysis? Was balancing the budget a Trump campaign promise? Has Trump ever said he would cut entitlements such as Social Security? No, that would have been Hillary...no...wait...not her, you have to go back to Ron Paul and 5% is about the best he ever did in a Presidential race. In other words Libertarians can never win. But Trump's decades old pet peeve is the Trade Deficit and if by some miracle he can balance trade then foreign nations will have no need to take their surplus dollars and buy US debt. A lot of short-sighted politicians like the trade deficit for this reason; they get to deficit spend. They don't care about American jobs. They just want to spend as spending and debt gives them power over the little people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moeman Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 18 hours ago, tous said: Stop it. Both of you. You're boring. Snooooooore. Thanks Gramps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moeman Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 8 hours ago, Dutchman said: Was balancing the budget a Trump campaign promise? Has Trump ever said he would cut entitlements such as Social Security? No, that would have been Hillary...no...wait...not her, you have to go back to Ron Paul and 5% is about the best he ever did in a Presidential race. In other words Libertarians can never win. But Trump's decades old pet peeve is the Trade Deficit and if by some miracle he can balance trade then foreign nations will have no need to take their surplus dollars and buy US debt. A lot of short-sighted politicians like the trade deficit for this reason; they get to deficit spend. They don't care about American jobs. They just want to spend as spending and debt gives them power over the little people. I would never trust a Trump promise or oath to marriage, honesty etc. but this will be expensive and they have a nice war chest : https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/16/us-china-new-cold-war-tensions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crockett Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 58 minutes ago, Moeman said: I would never trust a Trump promise or oath to marriage, honesty etc. but this will be expensive and they have a nice war chest : https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/16/us-china-new-cold-war-tensions Is the Guardian liberal or conservative? The newspaper's reputation as a platform for liberal and left-wing editorial has led to the use of the "Guardian reader" and "Guardianista" as often (but not always) pejorative epithets for those of left-leaning or politically correct tendencies. Why don't you take your repetitive and repulsive troll bullshit to a libtard forum or FaceBook group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moeman Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 46 minutes ago, crockett said: Is the Guardian liberal or conservative? The newspaper's reputation as a platform for liberal and left-wing editorial has led to the use of the "Guardian reader" and "Guardianista" as often (but not always) pejorative epithets for those of left-leaning or politically correct tendencies. Why don't you take your repetitive and repulsive troll bull**** to a libtard forum or FaceBook group? What is the 17 % up in the deficit not accurate? Why don’t you just face honest truth rather than sling crap rhetoric? Just for you cupcake https://video.foxnews.com/v/5848442859001/?#sp=show-clips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchman Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 "Here are some milestone dates for the national debt (source: US Treasury Direct "Debt to the Penny" database): January 20, 1993 (Clinton takes office) $4.188 trillion January 20, 2001 (G.W. Bush takes office): $5.727 trillion January 20, 2009 (Obama takes office): $10.627 trillion January 20, 2017 (Trump takes office): $19.947 trillion October 19, 2018 (yesterday): $21.671 trillion 8 years under Clinton: debt increase 36.75% 8 years under Bush: debt increase 85.55% 8 years under Obama: debt increase 87.70% 2.19 years (640 days) under Trump: debt increase 8.64% If Trump's debt increase were adjusted for a full 8 years (2292 days), the debt increase would be 30.942%. The real problem is the accumulated national debt incurred beforehand, not Trump's deficits." This was a comment in the Wall Street Journal. Looks like Trump is keeping the deficit down compared to previous recent Presidents. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudel Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 On 10/20/2018 at 1:59 PM, Moeman said: What is the 17 % up in the deficit not accurate? Why don’t you just face honest truth rather than sling crap rhetoric? Just for you cupcake https://video.foxnews.com/v/5848442859001/?#sp=show-clips Hey Moe! Larry and Curly are waiting for you. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Czervik Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 5 hours ago, Dutchman said: "Here are some milestone dates for the national debt (source: US Treasury Direct "Debt to the Penny" database): January 20, 1993 (Clinton takes office) $4.188 trillion January 20, 2001 (G.W. Bush takes office): $5.727 trillion January 20, 2009 (Obama takes office): $10.627 trillion January 20, 2017 (Trump takes office): $19.947 trillion October 19, 2018 (yesterday): $21.671 trillion 8 years under Clinton: debt increase 36.75% 8 years under Bush: debt increase 85.55% 8 years under Obama: debt increase 87.70% 2.19 years (640 days) under Trump: debt increase 8.64% If Trump's debt increase were adjusted for a full 8 years (2292 days), the debt increase would be 30.942%. The real problem is the accumulated national debt incurred beforehand, not Trump's deficits." This was a comment in the Wall Street Journal. Looks like Trump is keeping the deficit down compared to previous recent Presidents. Now, now. Don't confuse people with facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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