OV1kenobi Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I have no idea of how the Marines treat their Armor and Recon troops. In the U.S. Army Cavalry Regiments, Tankers and Scouts are considered elite soldiers. In the U.S. Cavalry Regiments, Scouts were the inheritors of tactics and tradiion from the old, German Panzer Grenadiers from WWII according to my Bundeswehr friends back in the Eighties. At least during my service as a Scout in the Eighties. I have never heard er eof any exercises between USMC Armor and the U. S. Army Cavalry There should be, if for no other reason than to keep each other sharp and ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXUSMC Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 To be honest, we don't have any standing battalions or regiments that have both infantry and tanks as part of the T/O. The Light Armored Vehicle battalions come closest to mixing armored fighters and infantry. Elite? The Marine ethos argues against such labels. My $.02. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richardb Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 ALL Marines are elite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWalrad Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Tankers and Scouts were/are considered "elite'? I've never heard that before. My youngest brother was a DAT (Dumb Ass Tanker) with a Cav. unit out of Colorado Springs, I don't think he considered himself as elite. Hell, I served with The Commander-in-Chief's Guard (Alpha Company) of The Third U.S. Infantry, The Old Guard. They told us that we were "elite". I never felt that way though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OV1kenobi Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 19 minutes ago, Richardb said: ALL Marines are elite. I will pretend to agree. LOL! Love the USMC! Greatest American Patriots! If you didn’t serve in the Army Cavalry, at least you tried to do the right thing by being a Marine. Thank you for your ser 29 minutes ago, KWalrad said: Tankers and Scouts were/are considered "elite'? I've never heard that before. My youngest brother was a DAT (Dumb Ass Tanker) with a Cav. unit out of Colorado Springs, I don't think he considered himself as elite. Hell, I served with The Commander-in-Chief's Guard (Alpha Company) of The Third U.S. Infantry, The Old Guard. They told us that we were "elite". I never felt that way though. vice 20 minutes ago, Richardb said: ALL Marines are elite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWalrad Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, OV1kenobi said: I will pretend to agree. LOL! Love the USMC! Greatest American Patriots! If you didn’t serve in the Army Cavalry, at least you tried to do the right thing by being a Marine. Thank you for your ser vice You been drinkin', Bud? I dig Marines. 99% of the Marines that I know are standup folks. Can't say that about my fellow Army vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OV1kenobi Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 Cavalry Regiments have always been considered a “cut above” regular Armored Regiments. Snobbish? Damned right, we Cavalry Troopers are a cut above and snobbish. Cavalry. Cavalry Scouts. Panzer Grenadiers. Combination of the best of Armor and Infantry. Hooah! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OV1kenobi Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, KWalrad said: You been drinkin', Bud? I dig Marines. 99% of the Marines that I know are standup folks. Can't say that about my fellow Army vets. Yeah, I’ve been drinking! Love the Marines! Have greater love for The Cavalry Edited August 22, 2018 by OV1kenobi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWalrad Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Right on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OV1kenobi Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, KWalrad said: Right on. I understand your sentiment if you were a Marine. I was a Cavalry Trooper (Scout.) Tenth Regiment (Buffalo Soldier Regiment). My love and loyalty is to my Nation (USA) Then to my U.S. Army Regiment Tenth Cavalry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batesmotel Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 6 years USMC Infantry. I still think Marine Armor is a myth. Or they were the greatest experts at camouflage the world never saw. Never worked with them. Only heard about them. Force Recon were fun to play with. Crazy bastards. Always looking for an excuse to advance from the water. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueiron Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Ask an Army 11B leg or Airborne what they think of Cavalry. The answers tend to be humorous. Marine armor is a lucky if it can get to the fight. The M1/M1A1 is a very heavy tank that isn't easily transportable and that runs counter to Marine Corps philosophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWalrad Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, blueiron said: Ask an Army 11B leg or Airborne what they think of Cavalry. The answers tend to be humorous. Marine armor is a lucky if it can get to the fight. The M1/M1A1 is a very heavy tank that isn't easily transportable and that runs counter to Marine Corps philosophy. 11B Air Assault - 3rd U.S. Infantry 9/84 - 8/89 What's the Infantry motto? "Follow Me!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OV1kenobi Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) Despite the bragging as a former Cavalry Scout, a serious question about the armor capabilities of the USMC. One might say that Cavalry is Armor, but on a much smaller and mobile scale, with an organic component of Infantry (Scouts.) Hit hard and fast. Gather recon and inflict mayhem. Just wondered if the USMC had any similar formations. When I was in the Cav, we were OPFOR for our Division. Therefore, we became familiar with each other’s tactics. Army tactics. Would have been interesting to have experienced a realistic training exercise between USMC Armor, if such Regiments exist, and Army Cavalry. I think it would have been a great learning experience all the way around and would have benefited both services. Edited August 23, 2018 by OV1kenobi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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