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52 minutes ago, tous said:

It is a beautiful.

Orange would not be my first choice for that automobile.

Or second, third, fourth or ever.

 

<--- loves the Cheetah

Remember that in 66 the automobile colors were extravagant.  I remember that Chrysler had a list of colors for their automobiles that were calculated to "impress".

One that didn't make it into production was "Statutory Grape".

Another was "Go mango".

"Plum crazy"

"Curious Yellow".

"Sassy Grass Green"

"Moulin Rouge"

To name a few.

 

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1 hour ago, Borg warner said:

What is it??? Similar layout to a bill Thomas Cheetah.

It’s a mid-sixties Vauxhall concept car, called the XVR. Vauxhall is a British auto manufacturer  owned by Opel. They also gave a relationship with GM. 

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1 hour ago, tous said:

Ford offered the bright colors as well, but later into the early 1970s.

Remember Grabber Blue?  Calypso Red?  Grabber Orange?  Yuma Yellow?

General Motors had two color choices: beige and boring.

 

GM Hugger Orange. 

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30 minutes ago, tous said:

Note the puddle next to it.

Must be Rabbi's.

His machines tend to be incontinent.

 

I am going to incontinent all over your ice cream. 

 

Or (Take Two, obscure airplane joke)

 

Goes to show what you know.  Cherokees don't have an Incontinental, it is a Lycoming. 

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11 minutes ago, Rabbi said:

Goes to show what you know.  Cherokees don't have an Incontinental, it is a Lycoming. 

I have given up on ice cream on Fridays.  :miff:

Weren't the Continental engines in Piper products all turbocharged?

 

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1 minute ago, Borg warner said:

I didn't know Kawasaki made a sports car! 

 

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Given that we are talking about Miatas and Eric....you have no idea how funny what you just said is.  Strong Zing!  :) 

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6 minutes ago, tous said:

I have given up on ice cream on Fridays.  :miff:

Weren't the Continental engines in Piper products all turbocharged?

 

They are actually putting a Continental JetA (diesel) into some Archers now.  Naturally aspirated.   5 gph and 115kts at 70%.  That is impressive. 

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1 minute ago, tous said:

Neato.

Diesel and aircraft engines are not two things one would normally think go together.

Especially a non-turbo diesel.

 

Five gph is about half of a gasoline engine at best economy, no?

Not only half, but JetA is cheaper than AvGas. 

 

The global piston GA fleet is becoming more and more diesel.  Most everyone is offering them, even in legacy airframes such as 172 and what is now the Piper Cherokee (not called Cherokee anymore).   The reality is, AvGas is expensive, logistically difficult and not available in many places.  JetA is everywhere. 

 

The predictions are that outside of MoGas being used, the U.S. is likely to be the last man standing when it comes to the use of 100LL.   Unless they pass laws or become obsolete to the point of no use at all, there will be 150 year old GA piston planes flying in general service.   75-100 year old planes are flown regularly now and the post WWII GA fleet, are what we are all flying.  Buying a 70 year old plane now for regular use is not unusual.    I think the average age of the GA piston fleet is getting close to 50. 

 

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Given a good economy, that there is a large, varied inventory of quality aircraft and the cost of ownership coming down, will we see a resurgence in GA?

NB for the civilians, 100LL is 100-octane Low Lead; your basic avgas, usually designated 100/130LL for lean and rich operation.

Time to get that King Air!

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12 minutes ago, tous said:

Given a good economy, that there is a large, varied inventory of quality aircraft and the cost of ownership coming down, will we see a resurgence in GA?

NB for the civilians, 100LL is 100-octane Low Lead; your basic avgas, usually designated 100/130LL for lean and rich operation.

Time to get that King Air!

Yeah, this economy will be good for GA....but good means "dying less slow."

 

No one is learning to fly anymore and the promise of GA is not as great as it once was.   You pay 10 grand to get a basic, good weather, pretty day pilots license.  A serviceable cheap plane will cost you 10-20 grand a year.  It will be small, cramped, 40-60 years old, you will sweat your balls off every time you get in it and be nasty when you get to where you are going and with 70+ MPH speed limits, does not beat a nice comfy car, door to door by much for the kind of trips such planes are designed for. 

 

No one is interested in that anymore.  GA peaked in the late 70's and early 80's when the hundreds of thousands of WWII pilots hit their peak earning years.   

 

GA is in a death spiral.  Where they made ten thousand or more little planes a year, now they make hundreds. 

 

The kind of planes that make GA damned useful compared to a road couch start close to a million bucks.  The **** hot single pilot planes like a TBM 930 or a Vision Jet (or King Air) also take years of experience and training before you have any business flying one. 

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