tsmo1066 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 59 minutes ago, fortyofforty said: I have stated often it is a bad situation, one that took decades of hand-wringing and empty threats to develop. Trump inherited a huge mess. I agree, and sadly, we can't blame just the Democrats for the situation. NK has been building up their nuclear capabilities for more than 30 years and both Democrat AND Republican administrations have chosen to pass the buck down to future Presidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Czervik Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Send in Team America already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyofforty Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 7 hours ago, tsmo1066 said: The problem with this theory is that if a pre-emptive strike were made against NK, the North Koreans would most definitely NOT limit their nuclear and vast conventional/chemical/bio retaliation to just the United States. The whole NK military has standing orders that would dictate the annihilation of Seoul and anything in range that is an ally of the United States, and if the pre-emptive strike SUCCEEDS, "Lil Kim" won't be around anymore to countermand those orders or limit the retaliatory strikes that the fanatic loyalists in his top military ranks would carry out. North Korea routinely makes it a point to test fire missiles by shooting them ACROSS the island of Japan just to drive this point home. He also regularly lobs shells into the DMZ just to remind Seoul that they are targeted as well. The military heads in Tokyo and Seoul have no illusions that should the proverbial $hit hit the proverbial fan, they will be subjected to massive civilian casualties. Should war appear inevitable, they can't, and won't, hide behind the illusion that NK is going to spare them. That's actually the problem with any "solution", which leaves us in a box: we can do nothing, no matter what North Korea does or doesn't do. Our national policy has been a decades-long joke, with no teeth behind it. North Korea could launch a limited attack on the United States or one of our allies and we could not do anything about it without risking all-out war. It has killed hundreds. It could easily kill several thousand. The world is being held hostage, and every day that goes by, the hostage taker grows stronger and bolder. Tanks and artillery. Chemical weapons. Biological weapons. Atomic bombs. Hydrogen bombs. Medium-range missiles. Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles. Then trend is not our friend. If we got hit by a dirty bomb, and believed the origin of the radioactive material was North Korea, do you think we'd respond with force against North Korea? North Korea has already supplied radiological material to Libya, without a U.S. response. North Korea is working closely with Iran on military technology. If Iran wants one badly enough, it would have a nuclear weapon courtesy of North Korea. Would we respond militarily against North Korea, if we discovered Iran obtains nuclear weapons? What would we do if North Korea decided to sell ICBMs or biological weapons to Iran or Venezuela? There are, as I have outlined, many ways North Korea can strike at us, directly and indirectly, and very few ways we can strike at them without risking millions of lives. That is not a recipe for success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyofforty Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 7 hours ago, Al Czervik said: Send in Team America already. When Sony marketed a movie depicting the attempted assassination of Kim, North Korea responded and we will likely never again see a movie mocking or showing Kim in a negative light. Hollywood is gutless and is not known for taking risks, and no other studio wants to experience the Wrath of Kim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK_Stick Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 6 hours ago, fortyofforty said: When Sony marketed a movie depicting the attempted assassination of Kim, North Korea responded and we will likely never again see a movie mocking or showing Kim in a negative light. Hollywood is gutless and is not known for taking risks, and no other studio wants to experience the Wrath of Kim. You have missed quite a few movies making fun of him since team America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie-pete Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 He sure didn't like " The Interview ". https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/06/25/325646474/north-korea-threatens-war-over-new-seth-rogen-comedy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK_Stick Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Can't imagine why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyofforty Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 5 hours ago, AK_Stick said: You have missed quite a few movies making fun of him since team America. But not a lot after The Interview. Have you seen a lot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 After 12 pages, it feels like I'm watching this again (with the exception of Trump making it worse)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyofforty Posted January 11, 2018 Author Share Posted January 11, 2018 And we'll hear the same tune in five years, ten years, twenty years, only it might be another Kim, and with more dangerous weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie-pete Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyofforty Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 I think it's really a Staples "easy" button they put on Kim's desk. He can't read English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie-pete Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 (edited) I'd more more worried if he had one of these on his desk. Edited January 13, 2018 by willie-pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Czervik Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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