Walt Longmire Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Seems like an oxymoron. I keep seeing references to victimless crimes in the local paper. Things like stealing. Seems to me like if you steal something from me, I might be a victim. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar_ml Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I don't see how anything is a crime if there really isn't a victim. Much of the time the only victim is the government not getting their share of the money, otherwise I just don't see it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Seems like an oxymoron. I keep seeing references to victimless crimes in the local paper. Things like stealing. Seems to me like if you steal something from me, I might be a victim. Sounds like maybe they are talking about crimes where no one is actually physically injured which would probably be a nonviolent crime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Frankly, the only victimless crimes I can think of involve only one person. That person that is doing something to themselves. If you harm yourself, with no other party involved in any way, directly or indirectly, I can see this being a "victimless crime". Otherwise, bugger off! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco Junkie Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Frankly, the only victimless crimes I can think of involve only one person. That person that is doing something to themselves. If you harm yourself, with no other party involved in any way, directly or indirectly, I can see this being a "victimless crime". Otherwise, bugger off! You'll go blind! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBull 301 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 You'll go blind! He'll stop when he needs glasses................... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco Junkie Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 He'll stop when he needs glasses................... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gun Shark Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I've always thought prositution(among consenting adults) was a victimless crime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Rabbi Posted August 11, 2017 Administrators Share Posted August 11, 2017 Seems like an oxymoron. I keep seeing references to victimless crimes in the local paper. Things like stealing. Seems to me like if you steal something from me, I might be a victim. I have never heard of theft being called a victimless crime. By definition theft involves more than one party and a victim. The phrase usually covers things like drug use and adults consenting to various kinds of association (prostitution, bigamy....) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonS Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 A corporation can't be a victim, because in the minds of the left and the media, as cruel oppressors of the downtrodden deserving poor, anything you take from them is not only not a crime, but simple justice. The more extreme apply that same logic to white people and "rich" people. (Rich = doesn't pay a spend down every month to the county.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Longmire Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share Posted August 12, 2017 I have never heard of theft being called a victimless crime. By definition theft involves more than one party and a victim. The phrase usually covers things like drug use and adults consenting to various kinds of association (prostitution, bigamy....) Around here, just about anything that doesn't involve violence is considered victimless by the courts. Recent legislation, SB91, did that for us. Steal a car and get caught with it, you might get a summons to court. Might, because if the thief says someone loaned him the car, the cops have to let them go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Rabbi Posted August 12, 2017 Administrators Share Posted August 12, 2017 Around here, just about anything that doesn't involve violence is considered victimless by the courts. Recent legislation, SB91, did that for us. Steal a car and get caught with it, you might get a summons to court. Might, because if the thief says someone loaned him the car, the cops have to let them go. I dont believe that. Just browsing it, the issue seems to be prison sentences. Not arrests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 This may not be popular but I am of the belief that anyone who has had a business in an urban area and tried to get rid of the prostitutes hanging around out front or out back does not consider prostitution to be victimless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Rabbi Posted August 12, 2017 Administrators Share Posted August 12, 2017 This may not be popular but I am of the belief that anyone who has had a business in an urban area and tried to get rid of the prostitutes hanging around out front or out back does not consider prostitution to be victimless. One of the thoughts about things like that is if it was legal, you would not have problems like that. That seems to be somewhat true in some places where it is legal. With technology it would be even more true. The problem with prostitution is not all hookers are the same. Some are hookers of opportunity just to get a fix. That is the level that will be hard to get off the street corners. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJHNSN Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 "Victimless" crimes. I do not believe there is such a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Longmire Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share Posted August 12, 2017 Around here, just about anything that doesn't involve violence is considered victimless by the courts. Recent legislation, SB91, did that for us. Steal a car and get caught with it, you might get a summons to court. Might, because if the thief says someone loaned him the car, the cops have to let them go. I dont believe that. Just browsing it, the issue seems to be prison sentences. Not arrests. They get a summons. Arrested on the spot and let go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Rabbi Posted August 12, 2017 Administrators Share Posted August 12, 2017 Around here, just about anything that doesn't involve violence is considered victimless by the courts. Recent legislation, SB91, did that for us. Steal a car and get caught with it, you might get a summons to court. Might, because if the thief says someone loaned him the car, the cops have to let them go. I dont believe that. Just browsing it, the issue seems to be prison sentences. Not arrests. Perhaps that happens, but the law does not seen to imply that is how things will be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speleothem Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 "Victimless" crimes. I do not believe there is such a thing. Let's say ya wandered into DC with a piece of spent brass in yer pants cuff... :faint: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 [quote=Rabbi;n3702 .... The problem with prostitution is not all hookers are the same. Some are hookers of opportunity just to get a fix. That is the level that will be hard to get off the street corners. And my guess is those are about the level that cause the most trouble with surrounding businesses and sometimes in residential areas. And with them come the clients and sometimes drug dealers that a fair number of people just do not want in their neighborhoods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elsolo Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I have seen people use the term inappropriately to describe crimes that they are morally OK with despite there being a victim. Stealing from a business for example. I do think there are victimless crimes: If a guy manufactured a silencer at home and only used it for target practice at his home in the country, who is the victim? A guy grows a plant on his property and consumes it himself, who is the victim? If you fornicate yourself and violate local sodomy laws, who is the victim? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
refugeepj Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Frankly, the only victimless crimes I can think of involve only one person. That person that is doing something to themselves. If you harm yourself, with no other party involved in any way, directly or indirectly, I can see this being a "victimless crime". Otherwise, bugger off! gambling and smoking pot come to mind. both crimes in most places, if i am willing to commit those crimes, and no one else is harmed, should be my business. for the record, the biggest gamble i ever took was marriage, and i neither use drugs nor do i drink. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudel Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Frankly, the only victimless crimes I can think of involve only one person. That person that is doing something to themselves. If you harm yourself, with no other party involved in any way, directly or indirectly, I can see this being a "victimless crime". Otherwise, bugger off! Like jaywalking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonS Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Drug use is victimless. Except for the police, EMTs and other medical, family, neighbors, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavalryDoc Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Refusing to bake a cake in a town with multiple bakers..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budqueiser Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Driving 60 in a 55 zone is a victimless crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now