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The confiscated antique revolver...

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I bought a pre-1898 Smith&Wesson revolver from a GunBroker seller whose listing said no FFL required. He said he could ship direct to me if I had a C&R, otherwise it had to go to an FFL licensee. (Excuse me, but I thought a C&R was an FFL - admittedly of limited scope.)

So I sent payment and a copy of my LGS’ FFL. 

In due course the revolver arrived so I went to pick it up, completing a 4473. To my surprise the background check revealed that the gun Had been reported as stolen at some point. The relevant county Sherrif had the gun picked  up - AKA confiscated. 

I contacted the seller, explained the situation including sending a photograph of the receipt left by the Sherrif and asked for my money to be refunded. 

I also contacted GunBroker and explained the situation and asked for their help in getting my money back. 

So far, neither has responded. 

What next steps should I take?

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25 minutes ago, Batesmotel said:

File charges for selling stolen property?

Was thinking of that. Would provide a measure of satisfaction but likely would not get my money back. 

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Do a Yelp review of gunbroker documenting their sale of a stolen gun and lack of support.  Such reviews tend to get noticed by the management. 

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Contact your credit card company. They should  be able  to help you as this falls under fraud.

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23 hours ago, railfancwb said:

(Excuse me, but I thought a C&R was an FFL - admittedly of limited scope.)

 

I have a C&R FFL.  It is a collectors FFL type 03.  It allows you to get firearms that are C&R eligible to be able to be shipped directly to you.  It does not allow you to be in the business of buying and selling like a regular FFL.  Most C&R firearms are 50 years or older.  The ATF has a list on their site.  You do have to keep a bound book like a regular FFL.  You do need to get the sellers information so you can log it into your book.

You can't just tell someone you have a 03 FFL.  The dealers I have bought from I send a copy of my FFL berfore they can ship. With gun shows I need their information so I can log into my book.  Any C&R firearm I purchase has to be logged in.  The ATF has all the information on their web site.

Dave

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Finally heard from GunBroker, who said I was due a refund. So I sent a copy of their correspondence to the seller and shortly thereafter received the refund. Records show that I deposited the refund June 1. So I should have updated this thread sooner. 

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A footnote... bought an equivalent revolver off GunBroker a week or so after the original was confiscated, at a noticeably higher price, and sent LGS’ FFL and a USPS MO. Week or so later got a refund and a note that the seller’s partner had sold it locally but neglected to remove the listing.

So I’ve crossed that style revolver off my wish list for the foreseeable future. 

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17 hours ago, railfancwb said:

A footnote... bought an equivalent revolver off GunBroker a week or so after the original was confiscated, at a noticeably higher price, and sent LGS’ FFL and a USPS MO. Week or so later got a refund and a note that the seller’s partner had sold it locally but neglected to remove the listing.

So I’ve crossed that style revolver off my wish list for the foreseeable future. 

That's just bad dumb luck.

 

I know it doesn't help but it's my personal policy to never buy guns sight unseen.  If it ain't a local private seller or on a gun shop shelf, I am not interested.  

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Glad this ended like it should've and you got your money back OP. A handful of sellers unfortunately would've told you to pound sand. 

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On 7/5/2020 at 6:32 PM, railfancwb said:

 

So I’ve crossed that style revolver off my wish list for the foreseeable future. 

What was the make of the revolver? 

Clearly you were not meant to get one just yet.

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Smith & Wesson “lemon squeezer” in 38S&W. Also known as a “New Departure”. Concealed hammer, DAO, grip safety, top break.

Sorry for late response. Hadn’t checked thread recently. 

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