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Well, after 2 months of waiting with the import process it's finally here. $350 1911 made in Turkey. Basic pistol. Came pretty dry in a cardboard box with one 7 rounds magazine. Didn't clean it yet, so it's just a very initial impression. Very nice machining. Cast frame, looks like a forged slide and cold hammer forged barrel. Plastic grips, GI sights (surprisingly well visible). Magazine drops free, trigger feels...dry and needs some love. Except for the lowered ejection port it's early WW2 configuration. However it's pretty tight. With the hammer back I can't hear any rattling going during the shake test. Grip safety works as it suppose to. Feeding ramp is polished along with the throat (that looks like 2 o'clock to 10 o'clock). Smooth trigger face. Parkerized finish and lovely handling characteristics. No surprise there. More to come soon.

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Reminds me of the Norinco 1911, when I saw the title I was thinking of some interesting pastries.  I see what you did there. :)

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It's November 11th and I finally got a few minutes to take the pistol apart. Machining of the slide is impressive and nothing is rising any red flags as far as I can see. It's forged I believe with different grain, texture and even color than the frame. Frame is a OK. Less impressive than the slide (or barrel). Plunger tube appears to be glued and not pinned. Dust cover area is fairly thin, more so than usual I would say. Most small parts are MIM. Other than that...all in norm. There are some faint leftovers of parkerizing on feeding ramp and less so on the barrel throat. Rifling is very well pronounced, and barrel appears to be very solid. It's cold hammer forged. I oiled all the parts and have couple of observations to share. Initially the pistol came very dry. Trigger was bit gritty. Recoil spring is heavier than standard - just not sure by how much. After cleaning and oiling the trigger pull improved. It's still fairly heavy, but 1911...properly smooth. I actually like it now. Racking the lubricated pistol is also easier. Soon I'll take it out to the range to see how it works in the cold. As You can see - I swapped the plastic grips for Hogue walnut ones. Looks much better to me. Thanks!

 

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5 hours ago, Nestor said:

It's November 11th and I finally got a few minutes to take the pistol apart. Machining of the slide is impressive and nothing is rising any red flags as far as I can see. It's forged I believe with different grain, texture and even color than the frame. Frame is a OK. Less impressive than the slide (or barrel). Plunger tube appears to be glued and not pinned. Dust cover area is fairly thin, more so than usual I would say. Most small parts are MIM. Other than that...all in norm. There are some faint leftovers of parkerizing on feeding ramp and less so on the barrel throat. Rifling is very well pronounced, and barrel appears to be very solid. It's cold hammer forged. I oiled all the parts and have couple of observations to share. Initially the pistol came very dry. Trigger was bit gritty. Recoil spring is heavier than standard - just not sure by how much. After cleaning and oiling the trigger pull improved. It's still fairly heavy, but 1911...properly smooth. I actually like it now. Racking the lubricated pistol is also easier. Soon I'll take it out to the range to see how it works in the cold. As You can see - I swapped the plastic grips for Hogue walnut ones. Looks much better to me. Thanks!

 

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Very nice!

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Those have got to be the prettiest Hogue grips I’ve ever seen. Most of the Hogue wooden grips I have seen are uglier than sin. 

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An update for You Guys. Couple of warm days here, so I booked one off and drove to the range. Decided to do 200 rounds break-in with 100 FMJ Winchester white box and 100 Herter's FMJ. Both 230 grain. I tossed in 2 Ed Brown's 7 round magazines to the mix to see how the pistol will perform with the aftermarket magazine.

Bad:

- The trigger is still pretty gritty and heavy, so it takes more effort than usual to be accurate with the pistol, but it's certainly able to deliver more than I can. I'll wait till 1000 rounds mark to see if the trigger job will be required.

Good:

- Sights are actually decent and I may paint the front sight with orange nail polish, but otherwise I'm satisfied with them.

- Not a single problem of any kind during 200 rounds session. Pistol ejected the empties around 1.5 meter to the right, no failures to feed...no nothing. Ran 100% and smooth!

- All the magazines were dropped free.

- No signs of any dings on the casings, positive firing pin strikes.

 

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I tried to learn the trigger. Initially it took me 11 rounds to knock down 6 steel plates at 15 meters. By the end I was able to do the same trick with 7. I need more practice and paint the front sight.

 

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This is the very first magazine. 7 rounds at 5 meters.

 

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Rapid fire (as quickly as I was able to work the trigger) at 3 meters. Red circle. Plate is 8 inches wide. One hole at the bottom is actually an attempt of a single hand shooting at 25 meters (I don't know how they are doing it - I missed 6 out of 7).

 

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Empties retrieved from the snow. No visible deformation or other issues there...

 

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3 meters slow fire.

 

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5 meters...very slow fire.

 

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As you can see, I decided to put my gym gloves on to prevent any chance of hammer bite. I don't think it happened though. Top of my palm was barely pink from the recoiling gun after 200 rounds.

 

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So far, so good. Dirty gun at the end of the day.

 

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Ok, took it apart for cleaning and I can share some more information. Plunger tube is pinned not glued, but the pins appear to be hollow inside. The smaller ones for ejector are what appears to be the roll pins, but the ejector is pinned, which sure is a good news. With better light I was able to see more details. No unusual wear. Trigger is still GI awful, but workable. Nice touch is the pattern on the front of the trigger (take a look at one of the pictures). You will be able to see the molding marks on the hammer and slide stop. Comes with $350 price tag I guess, but MIM hammers are typical those days on even more expensive guns. Cleaned, re-assembled and ready for more of good time. Initial impression - very positive and hoping for trigger pull to improve, as this is the only downside so far. Cheers!

 

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On 11/22/2019 at 10:53 PM, Nestor said:

An update for You Guys. Couple of warm days here, so I booked one off and drove to the range. Decided to do 200 rounds break-in with 100 FMJ Winchester white box and 100 Herter's FMJ. Both 230 grain. I tossed in 2 Ed Brown's 7 round magazines to the mix to see how the pistol will perform with the aftermarket magazine.

Bad:

- The trigger is still pretty gritty and heavy, so it takes more effort than usual to be accurate with the pistol, but it's certainly able to deliver more than I can. I'll wait till 1000 rounds mark to see if the trigger job will be required.

Good:

- Sights are actually decent and I may paint the front sight with orange nail polish, but otherwise I'm satisfied with them.

- Not a single problem of any kind during 200 rounds session. Pistol ejected the empties around 1.5 meter to the right, no failures to feed...no nothing. Ran 100% and smooth!

- All the magazines were dropped free.

- No signs of any dings on the casings, positive firing pin strikes.

 

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I tried to learn the trigger. Initially it took me 11 rounds to knock down 6 steel plates at 15 meters. By the end I was able to do the same trick with 7. I need more practice and paint the front sight.

 

YvNIwwC.jpg

 

This is the very first magazine. 7 rounds at 5 meters.

 

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Rapid fire (as quickly as I was able to work the trigger) at 3 meters. Red circle. Plate is 8 inches wide. One hole at the bottom is actually an attempt of a single hand shooting at 25 meters (I don't know how they are doing it - I missed 6 out of 7).

 

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Empties retrieved from the snow. No visible deformation or other issues there...

 

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3 meters slow fire.

 

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5 meters...very slow fire.

 

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As you can see, I decided to put my gym gloves on to prevent any chance of hammer bite. I don't think it happened though. Top of my palm was barely pink from the recoiling gun after 200 rounds.

 

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So far, so good. Dirty gun at the end of the day.

 

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Good to see a dirty gun after it has had a good days work.

Hope the trigger improves without needing extra work.

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20 hours ago, Nestor said:

With all the snow on the ground and 1911 GI in my hand I was thinking... Bastogne.

 

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20 hours ago, Nestor said:

With all the snow on the ground and 1911 GI in my hand I was thinking... Bastogne.

Ayep.  You and me both.  But i've had the same thought while packing a 1911 to Christmas Eve Mass.

 

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On 11/25/2019 at 4:38 PM, Fnfalman said:

 

I'm learning all my life. Assuming it's at least somehow true. I mean about American spirit. I can tell You for sure, that the Poles in such situation will look at the passing troops and say something along the lines:

"What are you staring at.... you f!@##$! Now, f$$%# off, go and kick some German ass instead of looking for a lover here. Buahahahaha!"

They wouldn't even try to look any better if they were miserable"

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That's a nice looking, apparently serviceable GI grade 1911.  Nice writeup.  Shoot the heck outta that thing.

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Nice!  Especially at that price.

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36 minutes ago, wjv said:

Nice!  Especially at that price.

Some of the best shooting 1911s i've ever shot were not $4,000 models.

Kinda hard to beat a Springfield 1911a1.   Hell, i carried one as a duty pistol as a cop for quiet a while.

It worked.   Very well.

This Turkish pistol seems to be as a good!

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What an awesome pistol! $350?  Stunning! I'd get in a fight with my lady for THAT at $350 bucks!!!

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15 hours ago, Swampfox762 said:

Send me a link!!!!

Yes!  Who / Where did you order it from?

 

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On 6/8/2020 at 8:31 PM, Swampfox762 said:

Send me a link!!!!

Not sure who's selling them in the US. I'm in Canada. Sorry.

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Vance Outdoors;

:599c64b15e0f8_thumbsup:

I’ve left a lot of money in their Columbus store when I lived in the area.

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