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  2. Anyone else think it’s odd this even made it that far? Reading the opinion, it sure doesn’t seem like it’s likely the kid commited the crime. http://www.post-gazette.com/news/crime-courts/2018/07/18/Pa-Supreme-Court-exonerates-Jordan-Brown-homicide-juvenile-Kenzie-Houk-Lawrence-County/stories/201807180125
  3. People have the right to hate America. And people have the right to disassociate themselves from them.
  4. It would be tough to argue with your interpretation, I think....based on the Tinker Case. I will say the kids has fortitude wrong or right. Using what he believes is his right to levy a platform for what he believes is not warranted by The Constitution and against his personal ideology without infringing upon another's right is always something in my opinion we should encourage.
  5. More strictly pertaining to the OP. Here's a link to the ordinance. https://ecode360.com/12118397 It seems more parents are too occupied/busy to parent their children in todays society. The school is supposed to help teach your children the fundamentals of learning. My parents were involved in my schooling. They wanted to see my schoolwork and took interest in my homework. If a teacher called home to discuss an behavior issue, my parents called the other kids parents and talked about it. If I was being a punk they took me and made me apologize, then I still had to pay the piper at home. Buy Alas maybe I had really stellar parents.
  6. Gun Shark

    DOJ settlement

    https://www.wired.com/story/a-landmark-legal-shift-opens-pandoras-box-for-diy-guns/ What does this actually change? Yes you can now download 3d blueprints to make a weapon(how many people are doing that already)... and the federal government acknowledged that the calibers involved are not inherently weapons of war(does that really matter in the long run?, can't the next admin issue a statement disagreeing with it, or even Congress say " yea we disagree, heres a new law").
  7. I agree. Personally, I believe if it's obvious to most reasonable people that they are invoking and requesting a lawyer... then they are revoking and requesting a lawyer unless or until they change their mind.
  8. Interesting parsing of speech on the court's part........What if the guy had a speech impediment or didn't speak the queen's English? Does Miranda not apply? I mean he said the word "lawyer" right?
  9. An appeals court seems to agree. A slippery slope to be sure. http://www.startribune.com/appeals-court-allows-unusual-necessity-defense-for-enbridge-protesters/480571291/
  10. Not sure I would want to be the defense attorney charged with proving something that has not yet happened. For that matter, can this defense be used for murderers who kill because they “believed” the victim posed an “eventual threat?” -Looks like a slippery slope.
  11. crockett

    Justice Kennedy is retiring

    Good timing. Maybe that female anti 2nd POS follows soon. 2 conservative judges could steer us into the right direction for a long time. I just hope that the replacement will be clearly pro 2nd and not some moderates that could swing left at any time.
  12. https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/27/politics/anthony-kennedy-retires/index.html
  13. That is a very interesting case. I'm curious what the prosecution is looking for in those accounts. Is it them just being thorough, or is there something specific that they are looking for. Either way it's a clear reiteration that we should all be careful what we say on social media sites.
  14. Very interesting Search warrants filed in officer-involved shooting case focus on social media accounts
  15. Well said. As far as your last two questions go, I think it depends. If a parent tries their hardest to raise their kid and do what's right and the kid still ends up a punk, then the kid should be held liable for his/her own actions, if the opposite is true, then the parents should have to answer. As far as I'm concerned, once a kid has been taught right from wrong, it's the kid's responsibility. The question, I guess, is who defines what's right and what's wrong? (I know whose responsible for that in MY house, but I'm not sure that I'm willing to leave that decision up to our current society.) I teach and it's getting increasingly difficult to hold my tongue when a kid or parent says that they are being bullied and the most that is happening is that they didn't get picked to play at recess or they, sorry, just aren't a likable kid. Now, when it escalates to verbal and/or physical harassment, well, that's another story entirely.
  16. As a dad with 3 adult daughters (one just out of college, the other in her 3rd year)I can tell you that school is NOTHING like what it was 30 years ago. Back then if you were bullied in school, it ended when you went home (usually). Now with everyone having cellphones, iPads, etc, It. Never. Ever. Stops. It started happening when my youngest was in high school (16-17 yrs old), until I asked her why she was allowing "their" hateful words into "her" cellphone. I doubt an argument like that will work for a younger child.
  17. I concur. Neither schools nor parents are doing much where discipline is concerned; then again, if they were to try they could be faced with potential issues for doing the right thing as well. It’s a vicious circle, damned if you do, damned if you don’t. A lot of kids have neither respect nor fear of authority figures; they have learned the adult will be the one punished if they so much direct a mean word in their direction in the form of discipline. For the most part the “bullying” thing is ridiculous! Unless it involves physical bullying, which should definitely not be condoned and stopped; the rest is something that kids should be allowed to solve amongst themselves, it is how they gain mental and emotionally maturity. Nearly everyone has been the recipient of mean words at one time or another, or been bullied (verbally) by someone. It is how the world is, efforts are best directed at teaching children to deal with it, rather than to prevent all instances of it occurring, which is not humanly possible. Now days everything is considered bullying. There will always be mean kids and mean adults, what happened to “stick and stone may break my bones but words can never hurt me”? I am aware some kids are more sensitive than others, but come on; most of what is called bullying today really isn’t, at least not in my definition. Perhaps I wasn’t a good parent when our kids would come home with “so and so said……”. The response was nearly always the same and along the lines of “suck it up, they’re just words. IGNORE them! They are trying to get a rise out of you, if they do, THEY win! Do you want them to win?” What happens when these kids grow up? They can’t handle controversy and are incapable of just ignoring idiots trying to get a rise out of them. We are teaching children to hang on to every single word others say about them and to be emotionally affected. Why are we teaching them to care in lieu of doing exactly the opposite? Nonetheless, parents are ultimately responsible for what their kids do/don’t do, legally and financially (my opinion). The school is responsible for teaching math, English and various other textbook subjects. Parents are responsible for teaching children manners, a sense of responsibility for their actions and for being, overall, a decent human being. Sometimes, in spite all efforts, parents may fail. Sometimes parents don’t even try at all. Either way, parents need to understand a child that can’t learn right from wrong is likely to suffer a lifetime of hardship. Should parents be punished financially or with imprisonment if a child harms others in society? I don’t know, I guess it depends. How do you hold a parent responsible for a child that is a sociopath? Some people, including children, are just sick.
  18. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2017/11/02/the-suspect-told-police-give-me-a-lawyer-dog-the-court-says-he-wasnt-asking-for-a-lawyer/
  19. i genuinely hope this Judge is doing it for the Entertainment value. but i know MN better than that.
  20. A Minnesota judge has taken the unusual step of allowing four protesters to use a “necessity defense,” enabling them to present evidence that the threat of climate change from Canadian tar sands crude is so imminent that they were justified in trying to shut down two Enbridge Energy oil pipelines last year.....(more at link) http://www.twincities.com/2017/10/17/minnesota-judge-allows-unusual-defense-for-4-pipeline-protesters/ ------------------------------------ Yeah, UFB!
  21. Exactly my thoughts. As well as, at what point do we absolve the parents for their kids "****headness". And how do we criminally punish someone for something that they had virtually nothing to do with.
  22. What exactly defines "bullying?" While most kids who are ****s have home lifes that are also ****, sometimes good parents have ****ty kids. The other side of that is our schools are worthless when it comes to discipline.
  23. What does the legal community here think of this? Can they do it, or will the DA or SA just not file the information? http://cbs12.com/news/trending-at-9/cbs12-convo-parents-can-face-fine-jail-time-under-anti-bullying-law
  24. While I have absolute faith in my Sheriff, I don't know how much support we would get from the County Commissioners. They have been supportive in the past but there has never been a major incident in the county that might test them.
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